Blood test lab results for nicotine levels!!!

[zazz]

this is great! take that FDA

[Angela]

Well, I would say that it is good news from the point of view that there is a lot of speculation about authorities limiting the mg of nic available (eg the FDA report made reference to the fact that more nic was contained in some of the carts than in other things on the market (and that was only with a lower mg than is being reported in this thread), so AFAIAC, this is good evidence for the mg not tobe too heavily regulated.

[mcl5000]

Originally Posted by Stubby

Not quite sure why this would be good news, or even unexpected.

What? He's using about 1/3 of the nicotine and is fine with it.

How could you possibly say that's bad news? Unless, of course, you don't want to kick your addiction.

[tannerk]

Originally Posted by happily

...of further interest is the fact that I constantly wipe juice on my hands and even lick the juice off my fingers quite regularly. Although I would never condone such behavior as everyone is different. DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME...

Thanks happily, great info that further confirms e-cigs are better alternative to smoking.

I do lick my fingers too. I find RY4 to be the pleasant on my pallet with slight kick afterwords.

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[Tugger]

Not everyone wants to kick the habit if it can be maintained relatively safely. Whether or not this constitutes "relatively safely" is an open question. The desire shouldn't be judged.

This is certainly interesting though, kind of in line with the prior research.

[tannerk]

Originally Posted by Tugger

Whether or not this constitutes "relatively safely" is an open question. The desire shouldn't be judged.

Sure, the blood test by it self, certainly does not. I draw my conclusions from FDA's report, historical data on PG/VG, juice additives, etc... But most importantly (kicked analogs 3 month ago) I feel much, much better.

[Tori]

Originally Posted by Stubby

Not quite sure why this would be good news, or even unexpected. It just another piece of evidence that shows how e-cigs are not a very good nicotine delivery device. From the research that has been done, puff for puff, e-cigs deliver about 1/10 the nicotine of analogs. Except for the cotinine your blood work shows it. it. Doing 3 mm a day of 36 mg liquid is a whole lot of vaping. And that’s about the strongest liquid out there.

That may work for some people but for others it’s easy to see how e-cigs are not the answer to analogs.

So explain again why this is good news.

I would say this is excellent news! That we are able to quit analogs and vape only 1/10th the nicotine we were smoking... and survive it.... how do you not see the win-win here? Maybe you need to re-read it


So happy to see those results happily

[happily]

What I get from these results is that e'cigs are a very effective replacement for analogs and you're not simply ODing on nicotine to do so. It also shows me how easy it is to go to low or no nic(technically already have) without issues. I'd say the only reason to go lower with the nic concentration would be to save money or if the juice is not readily available. The attitude benefits I get from puffing and low dose nicotine are well worth vaping on IMO. Just good to know the placebo affect is there if I have to go to zero nicotine one day.

[mistake]

this was great info to use to tell people about vaping. My boss tried it for awhile and quit when this FDA madness started, I'm forward this to him now.

[Stubby]

Originally Posted by Tori

I would say this is excellent news! That we are able to quit analogs and vape only 1/10th the nicotine we were smoking... and survive it.... how do you not see the win-win here? Maybe you need to re-read it


So happy to see those results happily

I'm still trying to see how this would be a win-win. I think you're assuming that everyone who picks up an e-cig quits cigarettes. There is absolutely no evidence of that. Lots of people are not able to get off of analogs using e-cigs. The reason is that e-cigs are a lousy source of nicotine. It's not even equal to nicotine gum.

For some people it works. For others it doesn't. You may be able to get by with 1/10 the nicotine you did with analogs but many can't.

I'm simply trying to be realistic. You may want to look at this thread

So when do we get 100/200/300 MG liquids? (since the absorbion rate is so low?)