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| Super Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: ut
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First things first.....a little history. I was a 2-3 pack a day smoker for 19.5 years. I have been vaping for 2 months an average of 3ml of 36mg juice. I needed to get some blood work done and figured I'd get a cotinine level while I was at it. Now the medical facility was quite helpful but it took 2 days of phone calls and stopping in to get them to do this.(apparently testing of actual levels is not very common) They finally did some research and found out what to do and where to send it. The results are in. I vaped 80-90mg's (or more) in the days leading up to the test. I drove for and hour and a half before I walked into the office at 4;30 p.m.(nicotine levels are lowest in the morning so I waited until later)Note: I chain vape when I'm driving. Here are the blood test results nicotine and cotinine metabolite test status......final nicotine...13 cotinine...247 3-oh-cotinine S/P....66 all units are ng/ml NOTE: Test information..Nicotine and metabolites, serum/plasma analysis performed by liquid chromatography-tandem mass spectrometry reference intervals ng/ml Nicotine unexposed user level would be less than 2........active tobacco user would be 30-50 (mine is 13) Cotinine unexposed user would be less than 2.....active tobacco user 200-800 (mine is 247) 3OHcot unexposed user would be less than 2.....active tobacco user 100-500 (mine is 66) As you can see the cotinine level is the only one that even reached tobacco user levels and was still at the very bottom. The other levels were well below tobacco user levels. This is very good news IMO. Maybe some of you were hoping for high levels but this is proof in my case that these are very successful products. It also explains why I could drop to 10mg a couple days ago and not notice. (of further interest is the fact that I constantly wipe juice on my hands and even lick the juice off my fingers quite regularly. Although I would never condone such behavior as everyone is different. DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME)
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that is good news. I knew the nic level in our systems was very low b/c I popped a piece of 4mg nicorette last week and about died from the nausea. I used to be able to chain chew that stuff when I first started vaping. Now no analogs for about 2.5 months and the tolerance levels have clearly dropped. I wonder how your test results would fly with an insurance company to be insured as a non-smoker? For vapers using less than 36mg they could probably pass? ps I have no problem licking my fingers either |
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| Super Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: ut
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I think many people could easily get under the levels. 2/3 of mine were under the level and I vaped the equivalent of 7-8 packs of camel lights per day of course any exposure may raise flags
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| Supporting Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Argyle Wi USA
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| happily This is the best thing I've heard all DAY!!! Those numbers are fabulous. What did your Doc say, and what did they charge you for all that work!!!!! Oh, congratulations!! Your test makes me as happy as mine did!! THANKS for sharing that. |
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| Super Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: ut
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Haven't spoke with the doc, but blood work is only like $20 with Insurance
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| Super Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Japan
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Awesome info. Always nice to see hard numbers like that!
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| Super Member | Congratulations!!!!!! I have to get blood work done regularly due to a health condition, wonder if I could get them to work mine in? I know they check for everything, probably how many diet cokes I drink!
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| Super Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: New Jersey
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Thanks for putting that 'NOTE' in there. I like to see how the tests were performed. I've done liquid chromatography and mass spectrometry before in labs. It's kind of fun .... not fun enough for me wanting to do daily though lol.
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| Supporting Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Argyle Wi USA
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Proto Type and all, here's the link for the Original Thread, there are more tests there, mine too (2, 1 saliva 1 urine Cotinine) Proto Any advice or suggestions welcomed!! Quote: I believe Joanna1010 has more tests coming in later, there are a few that have been done, info is there more towards the end on the thread. There are also links for the Ruyan Testing, New Zealand, etc. I hope everyone that does testing will post it there (strictly voluntary). Thanks | |
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| Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Madison, WI USA
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Not quite sure why this would be good news, or even unexpected. It just another piece of evidence that shows how e-cigs are not a very good nicotine delivery device. From the research that has been done, puff for puff, e-cigs deliver about 1/10 the nicotine of analogs. Except for the cotinine your blood work shows it. it. Doing 3 mm a day of 36 mg liquid is a whole lot of vaping. And that’s about the strongest liquid out there. That may work for some people but for others it’s easy to see how e-cigs are not the answer to analogs. So explain again why this is good news.
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