Nicotine & Mouth Cancer - E-Cigarette Forum

Pangoo · 10-30-2008, 02:12 PM

Does anybody know if there has been any studies at all about nicotine juice used in e-cigs causing mouth cancer similar to that caused by chewing tobacco?

I am just wondering because I often suck the juice into my mouth when using an e-cig and my lips and gums get numb. I try to avoid this but sometimes
I guess I drip too much liquid in the cartridge, or inhale too hard, and am
scared of my mouth ending up like this:

Effects of tobacco on oral tissue...graphic, shocking, pictures

Grenage · 10-30-2008, 02:19 PM

As far as I am aware, nicotine itself is not a carcinogen. As long as you don't drink it by the bottle, you should be ok.

PeteMcArthur · 10-30-2008, 02:31 PM

Like Grenage says, I don't think you have too much to worry about. I did a lot of research when looking for alternatives to cigarettes and chewing tobacco frightened me. However most seem to agree that it is not the nicotine causing the cancer but the other tobacco ingredients. The is some evidence that nicotine can encourage the growth of existing cancerous cells. Snus which is cured differently has a much lower incidence or oral cancer and European type nasal snuff has almost no cases of nasal cancer.

If you worried gave a good search around the net. Take what the interest groups say with a pinch of salt, they have their agendas and they don't let the facts get it the way. A bit of digging will bring up proper clinical trials that show the facts.

They way I look at it, my habits now appear to be MUCH less dangerous than smoking. A couple of drops of liquid will not in my opinion, hurt you. It will however taste foul.

Pangoo · 10-30-2008, 02:40 PM

Thanks for the replies, I feel a bit more at ease now.

The numbness and spiciness of getting liquid in my mouth isn't all too bad,
just hoping it doesn't end up wreaking havok on my gums and teeth.

But, as you guys mentioned, can't be worse than smoking a real cigarette.

7 days and counting now without touching analog ciggies!!!

Grenage · 10-30-2008, 02:50 PM

Good luck with it, I know I'm enjoying it

TropicalBob · 10-30-2008, 03:27 PM

Everything Pete told you is correct. It's not nicotine that causes mouth cancer in chewing tobacco freaks. It's tars and a plethora of carcinogenic chemicals that they rest against their cheeks and gums all day. I'll bet you'd get mouth cancer if you rested DIRT in your mouth that way. It's just unnatural. But snus has a great record and the tobacco industry is seeing much of its future in future snus users, along with dissolvable tobacco bits. E-smoking involves nothing of known carcinogenic potential -- at this point. We're still guinea pigs -- but at least we're enlightened guinea pigs now, thanks to the New Zealand research.

fuzzypeg · 10-30-2008, 08:23 PM

That happens to me sometimes too Pangoo.

Doesn't taste very nice either! I was wondering the same thing. so if anyone knows the answer it would be apreciated

TropicalBob · 10-31-2008, 12:17 AM

E-smoking just hasn't existed long enough for definitive studies on all aspects to have been conducted. That's why you'll find veteran e-smokers saying "It shouldn't be a problem." Leaking liquid happens. It happens mostly because you're drawing too hard on a too-full cartridge. The liquid escapes through the areas reserved for vapor passage and exits into your mouth. Just spit it out, rinse out your mouth, wipe off your cartridge sides and carry on.

jimldk · 10-31-2008, 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pangoo

Does anybody know if there has been any studies at all about nicotine juice used in e-cigs causing mouth cancer similar to that caused by chewing tobacco?

I am just wondering because I often suck the juice into my mouth when using an e-cig and my lips and gums get numb. I try to avoid this but sometimes
I guess I drip too much liquid in the cartridge, or inhale too hard, and am
scared of my mouth ending up like this:

Effects of tobacco on oral tissue...graphic, shocking, pictures

Hi pangoo....just wanna let you know (like what TB said)...way to early for any carcinogenic effect to take place(cancers doesn't grow overnight) but still not related to Nicotine ..more of tobacco pyrolysis effect than liquids effect...so wait for the full studies like a 6 years prolonged study will show the good and the bad.....

Pangoo · 10-31-2008, 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TropicalBob

Leaking liquid happens. It happens mostly because you're drawing too hard on a too-full cartridge. The liquid escapes through the areas reserved for vapor passage and exits into your mouth. Just spit it out, rinse out your mouth, wipe off your cartridge sides and carry on.

Yeah, I do tend to fill up the cartridge with as much liquid as it'll take so that it'll last me a bit longer.

I should just carry some extra carts with me from now on, but they sometimes
leak in my pocket... They don't last me very long so I'm constantly having to
refill them.

10-30-2008, 02:12 PM	#1
Pangoo Full Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NYC Posts: 59	Nicotine & Mouth Cancer Does anybody know if there has been any studies at all about nicotine juice used in e-cigs causing mouth cancer similar to that caused by chewing tobacco? I am just wondering because I often suck the juice into my mouth when using an e-cig and my lips and gums get numb. I try to avoid this but sometimes I guess I drip too much liquid in the cartridge, or inhale too hard, and am scared of my mouth ending up like this: Effects of tobacco on oral tissue...graphic, shocking, pictures

10-30-2008, 02:31 PM	#3
PeteMcArthur Super Member ECF Veteran Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Scotland Posts: 764	Like Grenage says, I don't think you have too much to worry about. I did a lot of research when looking for alternatives to cigarettes and chewing tobacco frightened me. However most seem to agree that it is not the nicotine causing the cancer but the other tobacco ingredients. The is some evidence that nicotine can encourage the growth of existing cancerous cells. Snus which is cured differently has a much lower incidence or oral cancer and European type nasal snuff has almost no cases of nasal cancer. If you worried gave a good search around the net. Take what the interest groups say with a pinch of salt, they have their agendas and they don't let the facts get it the way. A bit of digging will bring up proper clinical trials that show the facts. They way I look at it, my habits now appear to be MUCH less dangerous than smoking. A couple of drops of liquid will not in my opinion, hurt you. It will however taste foul. __________________

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10-30-2008, 02:19 PM	#2
Grenage Full Member ECF Veteran Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Portsmouth, UK Posts: 134	As far as I am aware, nicotine itself is not a carcinogen. As long as you don't drink it by the bottle, you should be ok.

10-30-2008, 02:40 PM	#4
Pangoo Full Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: NYC Posts: 59	Thanks for the replies, I feel a bit more at ease now. The numbness and spiciness of getting liquid in my mouth isn't all too bad, just hoping it doesn't end up wreaking havok on my gums and teeth. But, as you guys mentioned, can't be worse than smoking a real cigarette. 7 days and counting now without touching analog ciggies!!!

10-30-2008, 02:50 PM	#5
Grenage Full Member ECF Veteran Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Portsmouth, UK Posts: 134	Good luck with it, I know I'm enjoying it

10-30-2008, 03:27 PM	#6
TropicalBob PV Master ECF Veteran Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Port Charlotte, FL USA Posts: 5,470	Everything Pete told you is correct. It's not nicotine that causes mouth cancer in chewing tobacco freaks. It's tars and a plethora of carcinogenic chemicals that they rest against their cheeks and gums all day. I'll bet you'd get mouth cancer if you rested DIRT in your mouth that way. It's just unnatural. But snus has a great record and the tobacco industry is seeing much of its future in future snus users, along with dissolvable tobacco bits. E-smoking involves nothing of known carcinogenic potential -- at this point. We're still guinea pigs -- but at least we're enlightened guinea pigs now, thanks to the New Zealand research.

10-30-2008, 08:23 PM	#7
fuzzypeg Full Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 17	That happens to me sometimes too Pangoo. Doesn't taste very nice either! I was wondering the same thing. so if anyone knows the answer it would be apreciated

10-31-2008, 12:17 AM	#8
TropicalBob PV Master ECF Veteran Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Port Charlotte, FL USA Posts: 5,470	E-smoking just hasn't existed long enough for definitive studies on all aspects to have been conducted. That's why you'll find veteran e-smokers saying "It shouldn't be a problem." Leaking liquid happens. It happens mostly because you're drawing too hard on a too-full cartridge. The liquid escapes through the areas reserved for vapor passage and exits into your mouth. Just spit it out, rinse out your mouth, wipe off your cartridge sides and carry on.