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Old 10-30-2009, 12:57 AM   #41
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DNA Markers Predict Risk Of Getting Hooked On Cigarettes

I think that link sums it up. some people are just more predisposed to addiction than others.
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Old 11-07-2009, 07:02 PM   #42
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I disagree with that. Nicotine is highly addictive. I also read an article on the web that, "Nicotine is only responsible for the addiction". That was an article that was saying that nicotine is good for you.
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Old 11-07-2009, 11:28 PM   #43
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In 1996 they started to link the MOA Inhibitors and Nicotine together... Here is an article from 1998 on it NIDA NOTES - Tobacco Smoke May Contain a Psychoactive Ingredient Other Than Nicotine

But it appears to be that Nicotene alone is not responsible for the full addiction of tobacco users.
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Old 11-07-2009, 11:59 PM   #44
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I have had this discussion with many people. People say, "im not addicted to the nicotine, I am just addicted the the motions". It's like people are affraid to admit they are addicted or dependant on nicotine! Why? It doesn't make us weak, or stupid. People need to stop thinking of addiction as a bad thing, not to say all addictions are not bad, because we all know there are many that are bad. some addictions are bad because they impede on the liberty of those around them, but nicotine delivered by vapor does not infringe on anyones pursit of their constitutional rights! When I smoked cigarettes I went out doors when there were people around who were nonsmokers because I felt it was wrong to force the stink and air polution onto them, but vapor can be almost unnoticable. no stench, no pollution.
What I tell them is that they do not realize what they are addicted to. They thin they are addicted to the motions because those are the simuli they seek when they want their nicotine.
Everytime you smoke a cigarette you are instantaneously rewarded with a positive reinforcer (the nicotine)!
But without the niccotine (positive reinforcer), you wouldn't be addicted to the motions as you call them. Just admit it, you and I are addicted to niccotine.
It is basic psychology, proven by many Doctors of the mind.
That is why I think I am able to stay away from analogs so easily. because my nicotine solution I use for vaping provides a better reinforcer that those stinky analogs. I get a clearer euphoric sensation the first few vapes, and now that I have reached my plateau, I am going to keep on vaping and cigarettes are a thing if the past. When I want my addiction quelled, I reach for my PV, not a butt.
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Old 11-08-2009, 12:09 AM   #45
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Cool Medically dependant? Just admit the addiction please.

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'Chippers' Challenge Concepts Of Smoking Addiction : NPR



I am not so lucky. When I smoked, I kept open packs of cigarettes along with a lighter and ashtray in stratigic locations throughout the house. I'm more like the people discussed in the following articles.

I don't care for the word "addicted" because it is judgmental. I have the will-power to do without nicotine. I have done so in the past. But when I make that choice, I sacrifice my cognitive and emotional health.

I consider myself "medically dependant" on nicotine. I could switch my dependancy to a chemical soup of anti-depressants, anti-anxety medication, an ADHD treatment such as Ritalin, and a medication for memory impairment such as Aricept. I believe that nicotine (absent the hazards found in tobacco smoke) carries a much lower risk of adverse effects than such a combination.

Here are some articles on depression, anxiety, and other conditions as they relate to nicotine. In one of these, Glassman talks about a study he conducted where 9 people had such serious relapses in their depression they were advised to go back to smoking! Five subjects were receiving the treatment (clonidine) and 4 were receiving placebo.

Nicotine Addiction and Other Psychiatric Disorders - Psychiatric Times
February 1, 2001
Psychiatric Times. Vol. 18 No. 2
"Nicotine Addiction and Other Psychiatric Disorders"

Tony P. George, M.D., and Jennifer C. Vessicchio, M.S.W.

Amering M, Bankier B, Berger P et al. (1999), Panic disorder and cigarette smoking behavior. Compr Psychiatry 40(1):35-38.

Anda RF, Williamson DF, Escobedo LG et al. (1990), Depression and the dynamics of smoking. A national perspective. JAMA 264(12):1541-1545

Glassman AH (1993), Cigarette smoking: implications for psychiatric illness. Am J Psychiatry 150(4):546-553

Glassman AH, Helzer JE, Covey LS et al. (1990), Smoking, smoking cessation, and major depression. JAMA 264(12):1546-1549

Gonzalez-Pinto A, Gutierrez M, Ezcurra J et al. (1998), Tobacco smoking and bipolar disorder. J Clin Psychiatry 59(5):225-228.
I think there is nothing wrong with an addiction to nicotine, I wish people could just say it aloud. To me medically dependant is addicted. being abnormally tolerant to and dependent on something that is psychologically or physically habit-forming- sound familiar?? Dont sugar coat it for us, we are with you. I am addicted to niccotine, and I love it. lol Thats why I switched to vaporizing, it is definately safer than analog smoking, and I like chosing flavors. It was easy to switch over because the condition stimulus (smoking) is the same action as vaping and vaping still gives my my positive reinforcer (nicotine)! This is great!
PS: I know plenty of smokers who are depressed, obviously nicotine is not the best "medical" solution to the problem. Also, Depression is horrible, I know from person experience, but I recognize it as a part of life. Alll my emotions can't be good all the time right? I find a few movies and meals go good with a cig or two to pick my spirits up.

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