"The Ban" and your (my) addiction

[Kurt]

When smoking I almost always picked one up because I felt like I HAD to have a smoke. Now I definitely feel like I vape when I want. I even forgot to order carts some weeks ago and ended up being out for a couple of days. I didn't go running to the store to get analogs, didn't gain ten pounds and didn't actually freak out at all. I was happy when they showed up though.

I've actually LOST weight since I started to vape. Seems my craving for sweets is all but gone. Must be the bavarian creme juice I make. Maybe the VG satiates the sweet tooth. Seems to be the case.
Kurt

[Vocalek]

Sounds yummy. What's the recipe?

[rkh3]

Seems the Feds are about to exclude all tobacco products from being sent by the USPS.
Could be another nail in the e cig coffin, so to speak.

[basic_atheist]

"so just wondering for everyone else who has been vaping a good amount of time if the addiction feels different... "

I could force myself to do without vaping, but I wouldn't be happy like that, so I would prefer to at least keep an e-cig nearby just in case I desire a hit. To me the addiction is still the same level. An addiction is... well... an addiction, and I've got to have it, or at least think I'm free to access the drug at anytime. Know what I mean?

[basic_atheist]

Seems the Feds are about to exclude all tobacco products from being sent by the USPS.
Could be another nail in the e cig coffin, so to speak.

The FDA better change their terminology then. There is no tobacco in e-liquid... it's nicotine extract, PG/VG, and water, plus whatever flavorings you choose... that's basically it.

Also, I don't see how it's legal for the FDA to use a "new drug" sham to send agents to customs and hold and/or refuse free market enterprise e-cig merchandise. It's not a "new drug", it's just a better mixture of all the ingredients the FDA has already approved in the past. Instead of being jackholes just holding the merchandise, why don't they continue testing more samples and figure out who is using DEG? (that is, of course, if it's true they actually found some in one sample) - I might be behind here. Perhaps they are doing that. I'll try to find more info.

[DVap]

If the FDA is ham-fisted enough to pull this stunt, I'll consider the equation that stops me from telling everyone how to purify alkaloids from tobacco to have been seriously unbalanced.

Currently, I consider the process to be too complicated and potentially hazardous to freely disseminate it. If the FDA bans e-liquid, then any responsibility I feel toward safety will have been far overshadowed by the FDA's callous disregard for genuine harm reduction and their tacit insistance that we should smoke analogs, not vape, thus passing what is nothing more or less than a death sentence on those vapers who simply can't or won't stop their habit, but who successfully replaced analogs with vaping.

I'd feel quite justified telling everyone how to turn half a pound of tobacco into 100 mL of 30 mg/mL whole alkaloid e-liquid.

Honestly, I believe strongly that the FDA will manoeuvre to place the technology under the thumbs of BT/BP with whom the FDA is well and firmly tucked into bed. It's not the fact of vaping that is the problem, the problem is simply that the FDA wants to see the money go where they say it should go.