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surbitonPete · 01-26-2009, 10:36 PM

This thread made me wonder about my own heart rate while vaping.....especially seeing as I am using the 36 ml....and so I have just measured it and it seems to be around 64 bpm...I am 56 years old..and as far as I know that's not bad........coffee sometimes seems to give me a bit of an irregular heart beat but I haven't noticed anything from vaping so far.

TropicalBob · 01-27-2009, 12:37 AM

I get "white coat hypertension," Catman. Just visiting a place where I'll be tested physically is enough to boost my BP by 10 to 20 points. A doctor snapping on a latex glove sends shivers down my spine.

Some months ago, I was at a specialist and he took my blood pressure. Ooooo. I'd popped a powerful snus in my mouth about 10 minutes before, so I'd mellow out, you understand. Not a good move just before a BP check.

My BP was awful and he thought I needed medicine. I took out the snus, showed it to him and told him I was normal when not on high nicotine of some kind.

The next visit I skipped the snus -- and was easily normal. Heck, I have ideal blood pressure until I jack up the nicotine level. I've measured it many times at home and watched the nic kick in on both heart rate and BP.

Catman51 · 01-27-2009, 01:50 AM

So, maybe it is the 16 to 18 mg for me. Then again, he only took it once, and I've been known to come out a little high on the first one, like you say, WCH!

MrFog · 01-27-2009, 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TropicalBob

A doctor snapping on a latex glove sends shivers down my spine.

I guess it depends where the fingers in the latex gloves are going eh bob?

TropicalBob · 01-28-2009, 01:06 AM

Sure does. But I always know the doc isn't getting ready to probe my ears.

Don't you love annual physicals? Arrrgh.

Frankie · 01-29-2009, 10:40 PM

I will have one on the 12-th. But as far as I recall, it was never latex glove time. Blood, urine, BP, weight, blabla, but otherwise pretty hands-off approach where I live. Might be because I do not have problems with that part of my body, though. Swollen heart has not got really better by my switch to vaping so far, which is rather unfortunate. Even though the cardiologist said that quitting the smoke was the best thing I could do - and immediately recommended me to lose weight. Give them a finger, they take the whole hand as we say.
The blood test include cholesterol: I am really curious what that will be.

Marcos · 01-30-2009, 08:45 AM

there have been studies that link nicotine (not smoking) to *certain types* of bladder cancer...

as a bladder cancer survivor myself.. I spent countless hours more than 15 years ago in "medline" --when medline was only for MDs... have a cousin that lent me his access

... and there is were I found the study. (no.. I don't remember all the details... and my cousin is back in South America... no more medline access!)

I do think that we should look for the way for more investigation about vapng... not only about nicotine, but also about the use of Propylene Glycol and any other substance used on the liquid.

another concern I have... is the disposal of the batteries! (same concern I have for any other battery... mobile phone, cameras, etc)

Cheers!
Marcos

TropicalBob · 01-30-2009, 02:00 PM

Marcos, I share some concern about nicotine, but not about PG. Read the "germ-killing vapor" thread in the Health section. PG is seven decades old and has been tested, by being inhaled, with mice, primates and children. It has proved not merely harmless, but beneficial, even at our levels. Also read the Health New Zealand reports on clinical trials of e-smoking for further reassurance.

A reason I continue to e-smoke is precisely to inhale PG.

surbitonPete · 01-30-2009, 03:06 PM

Whilst I 'am' very interested in what scientists and doctors have to say.....at the same time they have managed to make me feel almost certain I am going to have a heart attack just by eating a McDonalds !!......so I can't help thinking that we can only really go by what our instincts and our bodies are telling us about the dangers of Vaping ...and at the moment my body is telling me vaping is almost as good for me as not smoking at all.

DPM · 02-05-2009, 02:52 PM

I had a baaad attack of cellulitus,...not cellulite! around christmas, my doc asked me if I smoked, I asked if he new about e-cigs, as I had recently started using them, he advised me to stay the hell away from real cigs, if I could not cope without nic, carry on.
Touch a real cig, and the problems will get worse...its about circulation...Im 42, and an ex service member too!
His main worry was I would go back to 30 roll ups a day...fool dont own an S/D thats for sure!!

01-27-2009, 01:50 AM	#23
Catman51 ECF Veteran Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 112	So, maybe it is the 16 to 18 mg for me. Then again, he only took it once, and I've been known to come out a little high on the first one, like you say, WCH! __________________ Steve M

01-29-2009, 10:40 PM	#26
Frankie ECF Veteran Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Slovakia Posts: 820	I will have one on the 12-th. But as far as I recall, it was never latex glove time. Blood, urine, BP, weight, blabla, but otherwise pretty hands-off approach where I live. Might be because I do not have problems with that part of my body, though. Swollen heart has not got really better by my switch to vaping so far, which is rather unfortunate. Even though the cardiologist said that quitting the smoke was the best thing I could do - and immediately recommended me to lose weight. Give them a finger, they take the whole hand as we say. The blood test include cholesterol: I am really curious what that will be. __________________

02-05-2009, 02:52 PM	#30
DPM Full Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Telford! Posts: 23	I had a baaad attack of cellulitus,...not cellulite! around christmas, my doc asked me if I smoked, I asked if he new about e-cigs, as I had recently started using them, he advised me to stay the hell away from real cigs, if I could not cope without nic, carry on. Touch a real cig, and the problems will get worse...its about circulation...Im 42, and an ex service member too! His main worry was I would go back to 30 roll ups a day...fool dont own an S/D thats for sure!! __________________

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01-26-2009, 10:36 PM	#21
surbitonPete ECF Veteran Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North Yorkshire UK Posts: 2,892	This thread made me wonder about my own heart rate while vaping.....especially seeing as I am using the 36 ml....and so I have just measured it and it seems to be around 64 bpm...I am 56 years old..and as far as I know that's not bad........coffee sometimes seems to give me a bit of an irregular heart beat but I haven't noticed anything from vaping so far.

01-27-2009, 12:37 AM	#22
TropicalBob ECF Veteran Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Port Charlotte, FL USA Posts: 5,076	I get "white coat hypertension," Catman. Just visiting a place where I'll be tested physically is enough to boost my BP by 10 to 20 points. A doctor snapping on a latex glove sends shivers down my spine. Some months ago, I was at a specialist and he took my blood pressure. Ooooo. I'd popped a powerful snus in my mouth about 10 minutes before, so I'd mellow out, you understand. Not a good move just before a BP check. My BP was awful and he thought I needed medicine. I took out the snus, showed it to him and told him I was normal when not on high nicotine of some kind. The next visit I skipped the snus -- and was easily normal. Heck, I have ideal blood pressure until I jack up the nicotine level. I've measured it many times at home and watched the nic kick in on both heart rate and BP.

01-28-2009, 01:06 AM	#25
TropicalBob ECF Veteran Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Port Charlotte, FL USA Posts: 5,076	Sure does. But I always know the doc isn't getting ready to probe my ears. Don't you love annual physicals? Arrrgh.

01-30-2009, 08:45 AM	#27
Marcos Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 2	there have been studies that link nicotine (not smoking) to certain types of bladder cancer... as a bladder cancer survivor myself.. I spent countless hours more than 15 years ago in "medline" --when medline was only for MDs... have a cousin that lent me his access ... and there is were I found the study. (no.. I don't remember all the details... and my cousin is back in South America... no more medline access!) I do think that we should look for the way for more investigation about vapng... not only about nicotine, but also about the use of Propylene Glycol and any other substance used on the liquid. another concern I have... is the disposal of the batteries! (same concern I have for any other battery... mobile phone, cameras, etc) Cheers! Marcos

01-30-2009, 02:00 PM	#28
TropicalBob ECF Veteran Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Port Charlotte, FL USA Posts: 5,076	Marcos, I share some concern about nicotine, but not about PG. Read the "germ-killing vapor" thread in the Health section. PG is seven decades old and has been tested, by being inhaled, with mice, primates and children. It has proved not merely harmless, but beneficial, even at our levels. Also read the Health New Zealand reports on clinical trials of e-smoking for further reassurance. A reason I continue to e-smoke is precisely to inhale PG.

01-30-2009, 03:06 PM	#29
surbitonPete ECF Veteran Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North Yorkshire UK Posts: 2,892	Whilst I 'am' very interested in what scientists and doctors have to say.....at the same time they have managed to make me feel almost certain I am going to have a heart attack just by eating a McDonalds !!......so I can't help thinking that we can only really go by what our instincts and our bodies are telling us about the dangers of Vaping ...and at the moment my body is telling me vaping is almost as good for me as not smoking at all.