So - are we getting it or are we not - nicotine

[olderthandirt]

Damn but I'm missing the smiling faces. Get the avatars back!

Would be nice to have a truly definitive study to indicate what we actually get from vaping, I can only offer my own anecdotal story.

Attempted to go from 36mg to 24mg. First 2 days were fine. At the end of 7 days I was not happy with life. After 14 days I realized I wasn't happy due to:
Loss of energy
Short term memory lapses (more than usual)
Anxiety
General overall , erm, well, just say I felt like ****

A few hours of 36mg and all was well.

Psychological or blood nicotine levels? I don't know for sure but I'm leaning towards getting my required nic levels as for getting back to good. I recently added snus to my anti-smoke arsenal and there is NO mistaking the nic delivery from the snus. Rather physical sort of thing don't you know When using the snus I don't NEED the vape. When not using the snus I'm chain vaping as no other. Point is I'm confident we are getting some nic delivery from our vape. It's not entirely a psychological thang...

[Vocalek]

As my kids sometimes tell me, Twisted: TMI

Anyhow, I was smoking 10 cigarettes a day and chewing about 6-8 pieces of nicotine gum or lozenges when I began using an e-cigarette. I have continued using the gum or lozenges at about the same rate.

At first, a cartridge was lasting me 2 days -- and it was an NPRO! I noticed that I was having a hard time holding it together. I was starting to become a little anxious and depressed, having some problems with concentration.

I had to consciously increase how often I used my e-cigarette, because I was not getting the "cravings" to "smoke" the way I did with tobacco cigarettes. Increasing the frequency so that I was going through a cartridge in one day instead of two days made things better. But my mood and cognitions were still a little off, until I bought 24 mg liquid and began refilling the cartridges with that.

Today, I noticed I was vaping more -- and then realized that I had not used any gum.

So yes, in combinantion, I am getting the nicotine I require, but it is a trial and error process, tweaked on an "as needed" basis.

[nycityjeff]

All I can tell you is this. I am NOT one susceptible to placebos. I smoked a pack a day of American Spirit Full Flavor Non-Filtered Cigs and a certified nicotine junkie.

Now I vape 36b mg liquid, cut slightly with VG for added vapor. I am very satisfied and I can tell by the way my body reacts that I am getting PLENTY of nicotine.

I'll keep it that simple. I have no urge for an "analog" and I can tell that there is a ton of nicotine in my system.

End of story.

[deewal]

There is definetly something missing from the Nicotine we use in E-Cigs and the Nicotine we get from analogues.
The "relax" factor is there but the "concentration" factor is not.
I Enjoyed a Cigarette. I don't enjoy Vaping. It is something i do to keep my Nicotine Level up and to stop me from smoking an analogue.

[need_2quit]

never had a buzz from nic juice, but i do need higher nic to get a satisfying drag occasionally, like in the morning.

for many of us, once we get over the need for nicotine, we get it down to zero nic through DIY juice for most of the day and keep nic for as needed.

I doubt the nic is anywhere near the levels stated in e-juice. The figures are about as reliable as how many puffs per cartridge from the same ppl that package the juice.

Perhaps we don't need as much nicotine as we think we do, once we have weaned off of analogs? I think it becomes more about flavor and the relaxing part of vaping as opposed to any drug needed. In the long run anyway.

[sbphotog]

I vape 18 mg and I was a pack a day smoker before I went back to vaping. I quit analogs the minute I started vaping again and I can tell you this, the first few days I DID have some withdrawl, so I know I'm getting less nicotine than my body was accustomed to. But now, my body seems satisfied with about 7-10 pulls every hour.
I know I'm getting some nicotine, but for me, that's not the point. My addiction is more psychologically based. Just the act of smoking keeps me satisfied...I can function without the nicotine as long as I can fool my psyche into thinking I'm still getting it.

[CHUCKLEHEAD]

Well according to FOX NEWS!!! Its just a oral fixation!!!!!! lmao>>>>>> vaping 36mg in the mourning to get my fix !!!! the 24mg rest of the day i'm fine!!!!! and i was a 2 packer camels

[boxhead]

i think we are victims of something in our brains that lets us get addicted to things anyway...crack ....... makes the human body react to its presence in the body, in what has to be near impossible time and didn`t BT add some stuff to the tube of death to get it to hit faster and survive the burning process to hit in the body "better" ? has anyone tried stealth e-liquid? and did you have any change in how much/often you vaped?

[YoMike]

This poll showing 80% quit rate isn't lying.
Must be getting enough nicotine to be this successful.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/for...cess-rate.html

[telsie]

I'd calculated my analogs as providing me with 16mg of nicotine per day (40 Marlboro Ultra Lights that are presumably .4mg each), yet I still went through withdrawal when I quit, despite using an 18mg e-liquid. Somewhere around the 5th day, I added a couple drops of 24mg to my cart and it made a world of difference. There was no head rush or buzz or anything, but I felt physically better and my head felt clearer. After 5 days, I didn't see any point in upping to 24mg, but I did start adding a few drops of it here and there and have done well ever since.

I guess we really don't know how accurate tobacco and e-liquid nicotine numbers are since it's somewhat dependent on the way we use the products. But when switching from smoking to vaping, I required a higher mg than I would've expected. I've found the act of vaping alone to be incredibly helpful for me in terms of replacing smoking, so there's certainly something to be said for the psychological aspect of hand-to-mouth and inhaling/exhaling vapor. When it comes to the actual nicotine, though, I'm inclined to think we don't absorb as much from vaping e-liquid as from smoking analogs.

Another possibility is that we absorb nicotine just as well from vaping, but that it's less effective when not combined with all the other chemicals found in analogs.