So - are we getting it or are we not - nicotine

[olderthandirt]

Sorry for cluttering up your thread. I thought this was for persons with real life problems seeking solutions.

Those last posts had nothing to do with you!!!

They were prompted by a suggestion I had made earlier. DVap just got around to bringing it up.

Good lord, look at some of the other chatter that's been going on

There is like 3 or more separate lines of thought that have developed in this thread. looking for ways to keep it all going with out losing track.

Your input is just as valid and important as all the others!!!

[IANAN]

Kin,

It's bringing more than just different themes together... It's bringing together different disciplines as well... I'm personally a Head Shrinking School wash out (Twisted why do you think I know about places to submit Clinical Case Studies) with my name on some research papers back from 15+ years ago, along with some really bright folks, but I pursued a different (But somewhat lucrative) career path after giving up on Head-Shrinking school. Also have some knowldge of herbal remedies.

Dvap and several others are chemist.

I am pretty sure we have had some MDs in and out of this thread as well, in addition to some herbalist.

In Academia you wouldn't get this mix....

[kinabaloo]

My thoughts, as per wikipedia "As shown by the physical data, free base nicotine will burn at a temperature below its boiling point, and its vapors will combust at 308 K (35 °C; 95 °F) in air despite a low vapor pressure."

The coil is running at temperatures which well exceed this, very quickly. We may be burning nicotine more than actually vaporizing it into a usable form. This also would be a reasonable explanation why I feel better nicotine effects when a coil runs cooler with shorter hits and a very saturated bridge via the blue foam plug mod. Also, I have experimented with poly straight to a coil with a backing liquid resevoir. Same effect, cooler coil due to higher saturation and better "feel" of nicotine effects.

added: Did not realize this was a 75 page thread, may be an old topic

It has apperaed now and then in various threads, but is back in vogue as recent tests show dramatic variation between atomisers (and possibly liquids too). Plus it's always good to hear real experiences.

I run a similar atty arrangement these days

I have always favored cooler running for much the reasons you have stated. And the hard evidence may be near at hand finally. Indeed, I have proposed temperature control as an important advance for atomiser design.

[DVap]

As has been said, this has absolutely nothing to do with any particular poster or posters. Most of us are here because we very well understand that folks have problems with a lot of the canned and approved solutions.

The thought is simply to split the various lines of inquiry out separately so that several different discussions aren't happening at the same time in the same place.

[kinabaloo]

Kin,

It's bringing more than just different themes together... It's bringing together different disciplines as well... I'm personally a Head Shrinking School wash out (Twisted why do you think I know about places to submit Clinical Case Studies) with my name on some research papers back from 15+ years ago, along with some really bright folks, but I pursued a different (But somewhat lucrative) career path after giving up on Head-Shrinking school. Also have some knowldge of herbal remedies.

Dvap and several others are chemist.

In Academia you wouldn't get this mix....

Sometimes, a detail about bananas say might spark a whole new endeavour of research. The alternative to one messy thread is lots of threads with messy cross-referencing, to the extent that they dont become myopic.

But I think a separate thread now on WTA would be a good idea. It's established and needs its own space.

[kinabaloo]

As has been said, this has absolutely nothing to do with any particular poster or posters. Most of us are here because we very well understand that folks have problems with a lot of the canned and approved solutions.

The thought is simply to split the various lines of inquiry out separately so that several different discussions aren't happening at the same time in the same place.

Best is some specialised threads for specialised topics and a general pot for the sharing and mixing of ideas - i.e. this one, with it's general theme.

A separate WTA thread now would be great.

I already created 3 spin-off threads. But they only exist as active topics because the coming together of ideas in this wonderfully eclectic thread.

WTA definetly deserves its own thread! And I would start it with a summary to date, ready for round 2 results.

[IANAN]

Kin,

I'm with ya on this one. I was approached also about splitting the thread.... Not for it unless;

1. The data in this one gets preserved
2. A subforum gets created or at least 3 sticky threads get created...

[DVap]

It's apparent that threads like this erupt wherever they might find a place because these types of discussions still don't have a home of their own here.

I'll start WTA when there's a place for such topics as WTA.

At present, I'd have to shoe-horn it into "DIY E-Liquid", or "Nicotine", or any of a number of other locations where I might be able to find an excuse to start it.

We need a sub-forum for "Science and Academia".

[kinabaloo]

DVap - Exo and I xalled for this many moons ago, and it was titled 'Experiments with Equipment', for some reason. I'm not too bothered now as run my own CMS

Ad2Covert - Real problems are the key! That focuses the 'real solutions'.

[a2dcovert]

I told you I had a quick temper. Sorry for venting my frustration.

I will list another observation. The first time I quit smoking was at age 21, I had been smoking since I was 13. I simply made up my mind to quit and just went cold turkey. I had no trouble at all. 6 years later after being in Saudia Arabia I started again. Six years later I tried to quit again and it was totally different and a dismal failure. Same with the next 2 times I tried. I can't tell you how many people I've talked to had a very similar experience. The first time quitting was kind of easy but the future times were completely different. I think that observation is important. Something changed when I took the smoking back up that first time.

Thanks for putting up with me.

Kevin