Calculating nicotine

[EonBlue]

Originally Posted by ladybug51

Hey, ck. this out: Electric cigarettes in killer shock - doctors
Do they mean vaping? Funny how it doesn't list where the info came from.

I'm sure they have an agenda, nicotine gum.
If you look at my first link below you can see information about Srinakharinwirot University which is also in Bankok, doing stuff with gum. Both Srinakharinwirot and Mahidol universities are mentioned several times on my second link along with Polytechnic Institute and State University in good ol' USA. The real kicker is the sponser in the upper right hand corner, Pfizer who I think makes Nicorette.

(remove the space in http and www for both, 2nd takes a bit to load since it's from the google cache)

h ttp://w ww.ashthailand.or.th/en/news_en.php?act=detail&id=378

h ttp://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:R8nNpNLEYn8J:w ww.medassocthai.org/journal/index.php%3Fcommand%3Dtopic%26selvol%3D88%26selno% 3D1+Mahidol+srinakharinwirot&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl =us

[ApOsTle51]

Originally Posted by CaSHMeRe

11mg eLiquid = 11mg PER 1000ml = 1.1% nic content
18mg eLiquid = 18mg PER 1000ml = 1.8% nic content

atleast, this is how it was explained to me by the manufacturer ...

I thought i had it with this nic content thing and was quite happy with the figures Kate quotes , but this blows it all out of the water.

18mg per 1ml or 18mg per 1000ml.....slight difference there

[Kate]

I think that's a mistake Apo, it's mg per gram of liquid ... 18mg per 1000mg.

A gram is around 1ml so it works out at 18mg per 1ml.

[ApOsTle51]

ahh yes, that would make sense Kate.

Either that or Cash is feeling the Pinch and seriously watering down his juice

[dc2k08]

Originally Posted by EonBlue

I'm sure they have an agenda, nicotine gum.
If you look at my first link below you can see information about Srinakharinwirot University which is also in Bankok, doing stuff with gum. Both Srinakharinwirot and Mahidol universities are mentioned several times on my second link along with Polytechnic Institute and State University in good ol' USA. The real kicker is the sponser in the upper right hand corner, Pfizer who I think makes Nicorette.

(remove the space in http and www for both, 2nd takes a bit to load since it's from the google cache)

h ttp://w ww.ashthailand.or.th/en/news_en.php?act=detail&id=378

h ttp://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:R8nNpNLEYn8J:w ww.medassocthai.org/journal/index.php%3Fcommand%3Dtopic%26selvol%3D88%26selno% 3D1+Mahidol+srinakharinwirot&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=3&gl =us

Thanks, this is a theory i have been researching for a while now. did you read any of my earlier posts on the matter, or is this based on your own research and we came to common conclusions ?

I was aware of the first link. I am not sure what the second link is. It has just loaded after about 2 minutes. It is a cached page for anyone interested. That is interesting that Pfizer sponsors the journal of the medical association of Thailand. Well spotted. first time i have was able to definitely make that connection.

could you explain the page ? is it the search results after you searched for "Srinakharinwirot Mahidol" Do you think that this confirms perhaps that the developers of thailand's own nicotine gum and the mahidol dental university faculty share a common interest ?

I mentioned this on a thai e-cig forum a while back. some of them seem to think the reporter was confused about electronic cigarettes being smokeless tobacco and mistranslated the research. I'm not so sure though.

For ease, here are the links:
first link:
PROF LAUNCHES NICOTINE GUM
second link:
Cached page (takes a long time to load)

[EonBlue]

I saw the first link on America's e-cig forum or something. Then I wanted to know more so I did some google searching and the second link came up. The Pfizer sponsorship is what made me think it was important enough to post. Then I searched Pfizer on here and felt really dumb since it had already been brought up and for going so far off topic.

[CaSHMeRe]

sorry guys ... meant 1000mg ... 18mg per 1 fluid ml

looks like i was already corrected 10 times though ... too slow to correct for my own good ... haha

[dc2k08]

not dumb at all. it's great to know that someone was following the same line. would love to get to the bottom of this. unfortunately Dr. Buajeap and the Nation are not responding to any email regarding the matter and the thai forum I contacted have not given me any leads so far. we have to "go rogue"

[TropicalBob]

I sometimes wondered how high a mountain of cigarette butts I created during 50 years of smoking 30 cigarettes a day. Horrible thought. We did terrible things to the environment as smokers.

I never could calculate that, but e-smoking is easier to figure out. I did that this morning and it provides a perspective Americans need. We just don't think in metric terms. We need pints, quarts, gallons, etc.

I've been e-smoking daily for a little over 11 months, averaging 1.5 to 2ml of liquid per day. So I converted my intake this morning to learn that I've put about one and a half pints of unknown, unregulated, untested Chinese liquid into my lungs.

I think license tags should be issued like they do with blood donors. Who will be first to a gallon?

[paladinx]

Untested etc. Weren't there studies done in Europe or something that showed that e-smoking was non toxic or something? I remember reading it in the forum not too long ago.

The FDA or pharm companies should be hoping on E-cigarettes. Why shouldn't they? They are trying to make money off of gums and lozenges and inhalers that are not even that appealing. Imagine the money they could make if they got into E-cigarettes? giving people a way to smoke a safer way? I mean If i were them i would be jumping on it right now doing all kinds of tests on it. That is like the ultimate way they could steal an even bigger share of big tobaccos market.