Calculating nicotine - E-Cigarette Forum

paladinx · 12-19-2008, 12:28 AM

Just to get this straight. lets say I have a 10ml bottle of juice thats 18mg nicotine. So that is 18mg per ml? and if you are refilling your carts or something, does anyone know what that is per drop? For example, how many drops make 1 ml? Im just trying to figure out how to calculate my nicotine consumption.

and carts, when they say 8mg on the cartridges, is that the entire cartridge. or a certain amount of puffs?

Very confused.

regards.

Bertrand · 12-19-2008, 12:31 AM

According to another thread, it probably means 18mg/g. But hopefully they will be labeled properly soon as regulators clamp down.

paladinx · 12-19-2008, 01:04 AM

now its per gram? This is what I really dont like about this e smoking stuff. It feels like the whole thing is a crap shoot. Like no one really knows or has definitive answers.

Bertrand · 12-19-2008, 01:26 AM

Yup. Stupid. Reportedly the JC stuff is mg/1.2mL. hehehe.

If yo-han's right about the factory bottles being labeled correctly, then it's the retailers who are to blame.

ZambucaLu · 12-19-2008, 01:42 AM

Well, I don't really have an answer either but here's how I figure it.

Take a bottle of liquor, 86 proof. 1/2 shot is 86 proof; 1 shot is 86 proof; 2 shots are still 86 proof (you are not then consuming 172 proof; only 2 shots of 86). You get drunk by drinking x number of shots of 86 proof.

With the nic, 18mg is in a 10ml bottle, or 30 or 50. With every drop, you are taking 18mg....it just all depends on how many drops you use in a day. If one ml equals 20 drops (I don't know what it is...I am just using 20 as an example)....and you use one ml a day....then that's it. Maybe that is enough for you....or maybe you need 40 drops. Or maybe you would have to smoke so many that it would be easier (or more satisfying) to go to a higher nic level.

So say one beer equals one shot of liquor. It was impossible for me to drink 6 beers just to get the buzz I would get from 6 shots of liquor. There was no way I could drink that much carbonation anyway so liquor (with its stronger alcohol content) was just easier for me to drink.

I don't know if there's an easy answer....and I don't even know if this is right (I'm sure I'll be corrected if it's not!)....but this is how I look at it.

If you dripped a whole 10ml bottle of 18 mg in a day....that would be too much for your system so YOU have to figure out how many drops worked for you. If you dripped that much and still weren't satisfied then it would be time to look into a higher strength.

So how many drops (or ml, if you knew for certain how many drops were in a ml) do you do each day? That's probably the best answer you could hope for.

Lu

paladinx · 12-19-2008, 05:53 AM

I see what your trying to get at, but I dont think proof of alcohol is comparable to the nicotine count. We are not talking about a percentage. Its labeled as 18 mgs. A flat out number. Now the question is. What does that mean, Is there a total of 18 grams of nicotine in the entire bottle? Or is that 18 grams per ml? gram? cartridge? Why should this be such a mystery with so many answers or guesses. Where are the people who are selling this stuff on this forum? Shouldnt they know this answer pretty clearly? I mean its all labeled with the mg count, but what good is that if you have no idea what the numbers mean.

I mean I dont think I am asking a stupid question. There are like 100's of posts on here dedicated to health issues, and a seperate thread dedicated to nicotine, yet we are guessing what the labeling means?

CaSHMeRe · 12-19-2008, 05:56 AM

11mg eLiquid = 11mg PER 1000ml = 1.1% nic content
18mg eLiquid = 18mg PER 1000ml = 1.8% nic content

atleast, this is how it was explained to me by the manufacturer ...

CaSHMeRe · 12-19-2008, 05:57 AM

I should also add ...

That is why you see some measurments in eLiquid like ...

.6mg
1.2mg
1.8mg
2.4mg
etc....

Bertrand · 12-19-2008, 06:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaSHMeRe

11mg eLiquid = 11mg PER 1000ml = 1.1% nic content
18mg eLiquid = 18mg PER 1000ml = 1.8% nic content

atleast, this is how it was explained to me by the manufacturer ...

hehe.. one does have to wonder about some of these manufacturers.. 11mg per 1000ml = 0.0011% w/v.

lordmage · 12-19-2008, 09:11 AM

i am more intersted in knowing how much mg of nictone is in one analog smoke and convert that over to e smoke so that way if you where a 2xpack aday analog smoker you could more accuratly perdict how much juice you would need

12-19-2008, 12:28 AM	#1
paladinx Super Member ECF Veteran Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: NYC Posts: 423	Calculating nicotine Just to get this straight. lets say I have a 10ml bottle of juice thats 18mg nicotine. So that is 18mg per ml? and if you are refilling your carts or something, does anyone know what that is per drop? For example, how many drops make 1 ml? Im just trying to figure out how to calculate my nicotine consumption. and carts, when they say 8mg on the cartridges, is that the entire cartridge. or a certain amount of puffs? Very confused. regards.

12-19-2008, 05:56 AM	#7
CaSHMeRe USA Supplier/Manufacturer Forum Sponsor ECF Veteran Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Hendersonville, TN Posts: 7,105 Tweet this post!	11mg eLiquid = 11mg PER 1000ml = 1.1% nic content 18mg eLiquid = 18mg PER 1000ml = 1.8% nic content atleast, this is how it was explained to me by the manufacturer ... __________________ P.S. = My PM Mailbox gets really full, really fast, so bear with me if it takes me a few days to get to your PM :) Don't forget, you can always contact us at info@puresmoker.com :)

12-19-2008, 05:57 AM	#8
CaSHMeRe USA Supplier/Manufacturer Forum Sponsor ECF Veteran Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Hendersonville, TN Posts: 7,105 Tweet this post!	I should also add ... That is why you see some measurments in eLiquid like ... .6mg 1.2mg 1.8mg 2.4mg etc.... __________________ P.S. = My PM Mailbox gets really full, really fast, so bear with me if it takes me a few days to get to your PM :) Don't forget, you can always contact us at info@puresmoker.com :)

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12-19-2008, 12:31 AM	#2
Bertrand Super Member ECF Veteran Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 467	According to another thread, it probably means 18mg/g. But hopefully they will be labeled properly soon as regulators clamp down.

12-19-2008, 01:04 AM	#3
paladinx Super Member ECF Veteran Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: NYC Posts: 423	now its per gram? This is what I really dont like about this e smoking stuff. It feels like the whole thing is a crap shoot. Like no one really knows or has definitive answers.

12-19-2008, 01:26 AM	#4
Bertrand Super Member ECF Veteran Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 467	Yup. Stupid. Reportedly the JC stuff is mg/1.2mL. hehehe. If yo-han's right about the factory bottles being labeled correctly, then it's the retailers who are to blame.

12-19-2008, 01:42 AM	#5
ZambucaLu I SEES ALL! Moderator ECF Veteran Supporting Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Central NY, USA Posts: 9,666	Well, I don't really have an answer either but here's how I figure it. Take a bottle of liquor, 86 proof. 1/2 shot is 86 proof; 1 shot is 86 proof; 2 shots are still 86 proof (you are not then consuming 172 proof; only 2 shots of 86). You get drunk by drinking x number of shots of 86 proof. With the nic, 18mg is in a 10ml bottle, or 30 or 50. With every drop, you are taking 18mg....it just all depends on how many drops you use in a day. If one ml equals 20 drops (I don't know what it is...I am just using 20 as an example)....and you use one ml a day....then that's it. Maybe that is enough for you....or maybe you need 40 drops. Or maybe you would have to smoke so many that it would be easier (or more satisfying) to go to a higher nic level. So say one beer equals one shot of liquor. It was impossible for me to drink 6 beers just to get the buzz I would get from 6 shots of liquor. There was no way I could drink that much carbonation anyway so liquor (with its stronger alcohol content) was just easier for me to drink. I don't know if there's an easy answer....and I don't even know if this is right (I'm sure I'll be corrected if it's not!)....but this is how I look at it. If you dripped a whole 10ml bottle of 18 mg in a day....that would be too much for your system so YOU have to figure out how many drops worked for you. If you dripped that much and still weren't satisfied then it would be time to look into a higher strength. So how many drops (or ml, if you knew for certain how many drops were in a ml) do you do each day? That's probably the best answer you could hope for. Lu

12-19-2008, 05:53 AM	#6
paladinx Super Member ECF Veteran Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: NYC Posts: 423	I see what your trying to get at, but I dont think proof of alcohol is comparable to the nicotine count. We are not talking about a percentage. Its labeled as 18 mgs. A flat out number. Now the question is. What does that mean, Is there a total of 18 grams of nicotine in the entire bottle? Or is that 18 grams per ml? gram? cartridge? Why should this be such a mystery with so many answers or guesses. Where are the people who are selling this stuff on this forum? Shouldnt they know this answer pretty clearly? I mean its all labeled with the mg count, but what good is that if you have no idea what the numbers mean. I mean I dont think I am asking a stupid question. There are like 100's of posts on here dedicated to health issues, and a seperate thread dedicated to nicotine, yet we are guessing what the labeling means?

12-19-2008, 09:11 AM	#10
lordmage Ultra Member ECF Veteran Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Dundalk,Maryland, USA Posts: 2,781	i am more intersted in knowing how much mg of nictone is in one analog smoke and convert that over to e smoke so that way if you where a 2xpack aday analog smoker you could more accuratly perdict how much juice you would need