Nicotine Vaccine

[mbagdon]

Trial drug may help smokers kick butts - CNN.com

No nicotine vaccine for me.

[angjen0816]

oh no, no way! they are not injecting anything into my body to turn off receptors. I do not trust the government or Pharma.

[ladyraj]

The concept of a vaccine is to build anti-bodies via a natural response with exposure to a dead or harmless strain of an infectious agent. How the heck would NicVax work along these lines? It doesn't, what is does is block pleasure receptors. I'll be damned if I would ever be vaccinated to protect me from pleasure.

Of course the Anti's will lobby the government to fund this anti-pleasure vaccine that will be paid for by our tax dollars to turn the USA in to Zombieland.

[Thyestean]

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[Vocalek]

When I heard that Chantix works by blocking dopamine receptors, I predicted that side effects would include depression, anxiety, and confusion. Turns out that I was right about that.

The researchers seem stuck on the connection between dopamine and pleasure response. They ignore all the other beneficial and necessary functions performed by dopamine, as well as the other neurotransmitters enhanced by nicotine.

Instead of exploring all of the functions that nicotine performs for the user and designing their treatments to take up that slack, they assume that all smokers do it for one reason only: to get a buzz. Therefore the only approach they entertain is "How do I prevent the smoker from getting any pleasure from nicotine?"

This vaccine is even worse than Chantix, because it probably is irreversible. So when depression, anxiety, and confusion hit, I predict that they are going to be very difficult to treat--perhaps impossible. No way would I take that kind of risk.

If they want to design a treatment that would get me to stop, all they need to come up with is something that relieves depression and anxiety, promotes alertness and concentration, and prevents memory impairment. Preferably that would be a single drug that has minimal side effects. Oh, wait a minute! We already have such a drug. It's called nicotine.

[HighHeeledGoddess]

That sounds very dangerous. I tried Chantix and it was a huge mistake; I'm glad I was not able to quit smoking while I was on it. I don't see how "sucking the fun out" of smoking will help someone like me who used to chain smoke. I light them one right after the next, and sometimes I would light one while I still had one going, so obviously there is more going on than the pleasure from nicotine.

[Tristar4]

I light them one right after the next, and sometimes I would light one while I still had one going, so obviously there is more going on than the pleasure from nicotine.

Same case for me HighHeeleled, I would use the cigarette I was just finishing to light up the next. Can't believe I actually used to do that.

No way I would ever consider using this vaccine.

[JLeigh]

Oh, right. Yet another chemical they want to inject into the human body. Forget it. And they wonder why we have such high rates of cancer and autism. How many drugs can you inject into the human body before it says "enough!"?

[Kurt]

Oh, right. Yet another chemical they want to inject into the human body. Forget it. And they wonder why we have such high rates of cancer and autism. How many drugs can you inject into the human body before it says "enough!"?

The real question is how many chemicals can you inject, and thus have to buy, before the body and mind don't know HOW to say "enough"?

This is now starting to sound like the theme to the film Equilibrium. In it the mandatory and law-enforced drug Prozium removes all emotions entirely. (A great film, and Christian Bale is awesome with his "gun kata" martial arts style.)

BP is all too happy to rev up the antis with vapid emotional propaganda, fully knowing that the antis know zero about much, let alone the complexity of neurotransmitter systems. The side effects of this vaccine will be legendary. The industry is arrogant enough to convince an uneducated public that it is a good idea to mess with one of the oldest neurotransmitter systems in the entire history of life on this planet: serotonin. That worked, and now we have flatlining prozac, paxil, zoloft, luvox, effexor zombies. These drugs have been shown to be little better on average for depression than placebo, with an insane number of neurological and anti-social side effects. Too bad placebo can't be patented.

Now they want to mess with the nicotinic and dopaminergic systems. Brilliant. These only cover all of muscle motion and cognition. A small price to pay for the honorable goal of plugging up the dopamine/pleasure centers. Just astounding.

I'm sure it will be marketed as safe. So let the anti's take it first. Since they don't smoke or use nicotine, it should have no effect at all...riiiiiiight?

This is in-your-face evil, and it has NOTHING to do with smoking. They are using the anti's as pawns in their never ending quest for full-spectrum dominance. Anti-smoking is just how they are getting their feet in the door. Bank on it. They are...all the way to the bank.

[martha1014]

The phase III of the study is getting $10 million in stimulus money from the government. Then in the works is vaccine for obesity, hypertension, rheumatoid arthritis, allergy and psoriasis. I am with you, I don't think they need to be messing around with the brain chemicals.

The vaccine half life is 50-100 days and then you will have to have a booster. They think that people who have the initial vaccine will only require one booster because most people who go this long will just quit. I don't think it works like that. I know people who quit longer than that and started back.If money isto be made then the pharmacy compancies will eventally come up with almost everything.

From Futurist Ray Kiezweil stated in 2045 will be the point in which humans reach singularity when the barrier between our minds and computers disapper and non biological portion of our intelligency predominates.

From biopsychiatry.com/medication:

Too fat, too thin, too sad, too happy...Whatever the problem Biotech is developing a vaccine or a pill to cure us. Mark White examines the consequences of a world where all our worries can be medicated away

'Nothing was left now of those literary and artistic works that humanity had been so proud of; the themes that gave rise to them had lost all relevance, their emotional power had evaporated.' So, what an improvement the post-human will be. We will feed our desires and remove all the insecurities and blunt edges and pain and art, and as the sky boils and the ice caps melt and the fish all die and the land is fouled and the bombs keep exploding we will, at least, have a smile on our faces and a happy feeling in our hearts.

This is where we are headed so we will just be happy.