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    How many deaths are there by nicotine poisoning?

    Nicotine are poisonous, and all are for childproof e-liquid bottles. But what is the deadly dose, is impossible to determine. It varies from person to person, and if its about potential or certain 100% mortality.

    However there are one thing to look at. How many have died by nicotine poisoning? This is real life empirical proof! The interesting thing is not the exact dosage, rather the circumstances and commonality.

    This is hard to find, according to Wikipedia it seems to be extremely unusual. So I turn to you, as wiser and more informed, are there any useful studies or collection of data concerning this?

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    Cases of children drinking liquid and needing medical care because of it are increasing as vaping becomes more popular. The good thing is it happens rarely and there have not been any deaths that I know of.

    Tobacco still poisons kids much more often. Take a look at this page.

    "From 2006 to 2008 and found that more than 13,000 children under the age of 6 were poisoned during that time period by tobacco products such as cigarettes and smokeless tobacco". They don't mention any deaths.

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    The real issue is how we keep liquid nicotine from kids. Is it a parents responsibility, or the governments?


    Things like this are why we should vote for the future.

    IMHO
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    I was not thinking specifically about children. But i see now, that it could look like that. The intention was the opposite, by declaring that I'm not one of those nicotine ain't dangerous fools, to avoid the whole infected "Think about the children debate".

    I asked because the death toll, seems so unreasonable low. I fund in total, globally less than 10 reported death by nicotine poisoning in over a hundred years, and none through drinking or eating (most industrial accidents) .

    Interestingly enough that site actually confirms this partly. It seems to be almost impossible to drink e-liquid, with out vomiting it up, before it becomes dangerous? The feeling is dramatic but not life threatening. By experience I know, swallowing nicotine is very nauseating even when used to it.

    The fact that nicotine make children nauseated and puking, don't get them addicted. The opposite is quite well documented. Most who have the traumatic experience of "borrowing grandpa's pipe" gets a lifelong evasion against nicotine instead.

    Circumstances where children actually have become addicted to nicotine, are far more terrible! It's been done intentionally, under the awful influence of others. By older children, adults and even parents, for the power trip and cruel entertainment.

    Good to see, that no children have died from nicotine poisoning. That site would have mention it, if there were the slightest doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frenchfry1942 View Post
    The real issue is how we keep liquid nicotine from kids. Is it a parents responsibility, or the governments?


    Things like this are why we should vote for the future.

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    It's parental responsibility. Accidents and shear stupidity should be addressed on an incident-specific basis. I have no need at all for the government to dictate anything like this to me.
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    For supposedly being so extremely dangerous nicotine has indeed caused suspiciously few deaths. I'm not doubting at all that it's toxic, but even if it's only one tenth as toxic as claimed it's interesting that it hasn't been used to intentionally poison people.

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    Edit post got messed up, reposting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryedan View Post
    Cases of children drinking liquid and needing medical care because of it are increasing as vaping becomes more popular. The good thing is it happens rarely and there have not been any deaths that I know of.

    Tobacco still poisons kids much more often. Take a look at this page.

    "From 2006 to 2008 and found that more than 13,000 children under the age of 6 were poisoned during that time period by tobacco products such as cigarettes and smokeless tobacco". They don't mention any deaths.
    Thank you for that!
    I got abit fed up when the swedish news are trying to scare people "already this year we've had 10 cases of poisoning, 7 of them were children"
    First, it's up to the parents to store the liquids in a safe place. Second i've said exactly as you said above. Normal ciggs is just, if not more dangerous in this way.
    The other cases of "poisoning" was just a tiny nicotine OD as they felt "nauseous and headache".

    Such a shame that media wants to spread so much misinformation. I've even mailed one of the anti vaping publisher, but no answer (no wonder...)
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    It should always be up those closest to the issue to decide whats safe and what is not.

    No matter how much government tells you they are concerned with the possibility of a child dying, I guarantee you they wont shed a single tear or even lose much sleep if one of our children dies.Anyone who tries to tell you otherwise is naive. Its hard for many people to shed a tear for a total stranger unless were talking about something on the scale of 911.

    Government is too far removed to make good decisions for the rest of us, they only know generalities instead of specifics and what works for the majority usually doesnt work for everyone.

    In short they are looking at the situation from a telescope while were seeing it much more clearly and closeup.

    Whos going to make the better decisions; a general on an aircraft carrier 2000 miles away who is getting second hand reports and satellite pictures or a Sergeant commanding a platoon right in the middle of the action?

    My money is on the Sargeant, especially because its his posterior and life on the line if he messes up. :-)
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    I saw some stats on calls to the poison control center. Unfortunately I can't find the exact information. I was amazed how few were nicotine related and far more were other toxins. Even those numbers could be skewed since a call may be a question such as "I took X amount of something is that safe"? In any event the numbers are very low. I believe it was in relation to children so it pretty much refutes the danger to children claim.

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