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    Also, most of the nic in the vapor is filtered thru the lungs so "second hand vapor" is even less potent ...

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    So it would be possible to kill yourself then vaping if you somehow managed to vape a whole 10 ml bottle or more in one hit? I'm not to worried about that lol

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    Well, if you manage to eat a pound of salt or so, you will kill yourself, too. People actually use that to comit suicide. That does not make me worry about putting salt into my food, either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xdimebagz View Post
    So it would be possible to kill yourself then vaping if you somehow managed to vape a whole 10 ml bottle or more in one hit? I'm not to worried about that lol
    It'd take you hours to actually "vape" that much e-liquid (that is, in the common usage of vaporizing an inhaling the result). Concievable, there is enough nicotine in 10ml of even the "low" e-liquid that if you managed to get every bit of it into your bloodstream you'd have a negative reaction, possibly even fatal. That's why we don't drink it!

    If you just vaporized all of it at once and took a lung-filling hit... I suspect that the worst you could do it make yourself dizzy for a moment before the rest of the vapor started dissipating. You'd just waste the vast majority of it.

    Last I heard, a "fatal dose" of nicotine in an adult human was supposed to be 40-50mg or so. I don't know where that "1mg directly in a vein will kill you" comment on the first page comes from, but I doubt it's truth.

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    I was having a bit of overbearing anxiety when it happened so I was a bit more worried than I should have been heh and yes, I have yet to find any research to back up the 1mg in the vein statement, but here is something that someone could easily misconstrue into the aforementioned statement: "0.5-1.0 mg/kg can be a lethal dosage for adult humans." Although it would take a lot of fanatical thinking to misconstrue that statement ha oh and I noticed my cursing was censored. My apologies for that, will keep my mouth clean from here on out =|

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    Alright I was now really worried about it all I just wanted to understand how all this works better lol so i guess we just shouldn't mainline nicotine and well all be okay

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    Quote Originally Posted by xdimebagz View Post
    Alright I was now really worried about it all I just wanted to understand how all this works better lol so i guess we just shouldn't mainline nicotine and well all be okay
    That seems to be the general consensus. "Warning: do not inject/drink e-liquid"

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    Okay, let's take a moment to look at this from the "geek" eyes.

    The best info I can find is the absolute lethal level of nicotine in the average adult is between 40-60mg.

    Nicotine is fully processed in about an hour in the body.

    So, similar to drinking, if you have 60 mg over 3 hours, it's not the same as 60 mg in five minutes.

    The common info suggests vapor to be about 30-40% effective at delivering nicotine.

    NOW, let's take the best efficiency rating, the lowest OD level:40% effective, 40mg OD. If you had juice that is 24mg per ml, you'd need to vape 4.16 ml very quickly to "OD".
    side note you'd have to drink 1.6ml.. So that little bit you sometimes end up with on your lips after topping off... wipe it away and take a sip of your beverage.

    The other thing to consider is your prior nicotine consumption. We build tolerance to this drug much like almost ALL others. (except salvia, some have reported backwards tolerance.. lucky)

    So, if you were already used to a two pack a day habit... your nicotine level would have to be much higher to cause OD.

    So, if you were an average smoker before, and now vape 24mg/ml juice and vape eight carts in a 14 hour day, you're taking in ~ 5mg an hour. Now I'm not a doctor but it's a safe bet your FINE!
    If you vape 64 carts in 14 hours, I'd be worried about more than just the OD... there's issues there none of us could explain!

    All my DIY juice is 28-36mg, and I have been known to sneak a drop or two of something much stronger (secrecy for the nay-sayers) onto the atty when out drinking. And I wake up everyday, still feeling a thousand times better than when I smoked those nasty analogs!!!

    I'm not a doctor or a chemist, but I hope this will ease the minds of some, and amuse others If you put a worst-case scenario on it you'd still have to really mean it to OD from vaping. Enjoy!
    Last edited by Tanner S Hyde; 02-11-2010 at 09:48 AM.

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