If at first you don't succeed...

[mwa102464]

is this snus or snuff snorted???

[a2dcovert]

is this snus or snuff snorted???

Snus is usually referred to the Swedish form of snuff, snus is actually the Swedish name for snuff. This product is not nasal snuff. Most of the members here including myself use the snus that is packaged into small little bags called portions. They are simply placed between the gum and cheek and the saliva in your mouth activates it and you normally absorb it through the skin in your mouth. There is no excess juice formed that requires spitting in most cases.

[olderthandirt]

...I feel dumb - what is WTA? I've seen it a couple of times before and didn't ask.

~A

Never dumb angelique. Specially around here!
WTA stands for Whole Tobacco Alkaloids. Term originated with DVap. Read about it in this blog entry.

[The Wiz]

Never dumb angelique. Specially around here!
WTA stands for Whole Tobacco Alkaloids. Term originated with DVap. Read about it in this blog entry.

Took me a few days before I knew what that was as well angelique.....even though I now know the definition...my understanding is still in doubt! Thanks for the blog link OTD...I will try educating myself this week!..LOLThe Wiz!

[TropicalBob]

It took me many failed attempts to get off cigarettes, a2d. Many. A year before I finally quit, I tried with snus primarily. I made it 45 days, a miracle for me.

After going back to cigs, I kept using snus, added some regular Stonewall. On July 17, 2007, I did quit. I did so in disgust; I had just wasted two months on Chantix, which had only made me ill daily, but damned if I was going back after that ordeal.

Since then, I've added nasal snuff and regular Stonewall use. But I still need tobacco, even if I don't inhale it. So I puff a pipe several times a day. That provides a taste and aroma that nothing else does.

The e-cig is pretty much a placebo for me, too. I use it all the time, but also have a snus in place to deliver the goods. I am still not a happy camper. Make note of that. With all I do, I still want a cigarette every day, especially after I wake up or finish an evening meal. I always, always, pop a Stonewall at such times. I depend on Stonewall more than anything else.

We'll all find individual routes off cigarettes, if we succeed at all. I'm no longer young enough to pretend smoke isn't hurting my lungs. Of course it is. And my desire not to end life with plastic tubes stuck up each nostril keeps me from inhaling smoke any more.

Keep trying. If you can't quit, you might discover a healthier balance of smoked tobacco, snus, nasal snuff, and/or dissolvable tobacco.

[olderthandirt]

Hi T Bob, been awhile!

In a poll I put up Twisted and I have taken to referring to those of us that need the additional smokeless products to stay off the smokes as "hard cases".

You sir, fit the description

[TWISTED VICTOR]

Hi T Bob, been awhile!

In a poll I put up Twisted and I have taken to referring to those of us that need the additional smokeless products to stay off the smokes as "hard cases".

You sir, fit the description

You got my vote, TB . I vaguely remember referring to you as a walking, talking alkaloid....

[The Wiz]

It took me many failed attempts to get off cigarettes, a2d. Many. A year before I finally quit, I tried with snus primarily. I made it 45 days, a miracle for me.

After going back to cigs, I kept using snus, added some regular Stonewall. On July 17, 2007, I did quit. I did so in disgust; I had just wasted two months on Chantix, which had only made me ill daily, but damned if I was going back after that ordeal.

Since then, I've added nasal snuff and regular Stonewall use. But I still need tobacco, even if I don't inhale it. So I puff a pipe several times a day. That provides a taste and aroma that nothing else does.

The e-cig is pretty much a placebo for me, too. I use it all the time, but also have a snus in place to deliver the goods. I am still not a happy camper. Make note of that. With all I do, I still want a cigarette every day, especially after I wake up or finish an evening meal. I always, always, pop a Stonewall at such times. I depend on Stonewall more than anything else.

We'll all find individual routes off cigarettes, if we succeed at all. I'm no longer young enough to pretend smoke isn't hurting my lungs. Of course it is. And my desire not to end life with plastic tubes stuck up each nostril keeps me from inhaling smoke any more.

Keep trying. If you can't quit, you might discover a healthier balance of smoked tobacco, snus, nasal snuff, and/or dissolvable tobacco.

TB.....At least you can admit freely that you still have the urge for a cigarette without feeling embarrased!!I think this forum is loaded with "Closet Smokers" who pretend their not....when they actually are.Kudos to you for knowing(and admitting) your strengths and weaknesses.2 years plus is something to be proud of! The Wiz!

[a2dcovert]

It took me many failed attempts to get off cigarettes, a2d. Many. A year before I finally quit, I tried with snus primarily. I made it 45 days, a miracle for me.

After going back to cigs, I kept using snus, added some regular Stonewall. On July 17, 2007, I did quit. I did so in disgust; I had just wasted two months on Chantix, which had only made me ill daily, but damned if I was going back after that ordeal.

Since then, I've added nasal snuff and regular Stonewall use. But I still need tobacco, even if I don't inhale it. So I puff a pipe several times a day. That provides a taste and aroma that nothing else does.

The e-cig is pretty much a placebo for me, too. I use it all the time, but also have a snus in place to deliver the goods. I am still not a happy camper. Make note of that. With all I do, I still want a cigarette every day, especially after I wake up or finish an evening meal. I always, always, pop a Stonewall at such times. I depend on Stonewall more than anything else.

We'll all find individual routes off cigarettes, if we succeed at all. I'm no longer young enough to pretend smoke isn't hurting my lungs. Of course it is. And my desire not to end life with plastic tubes stuck up each nostril keeps me from inhaling smoke any more.

Keep trying. If you can't quit, you might discover a healthier balance of smoked tobacco, snus, nasal snuff, and/or dissolvable tobacco.

TB thanks for the candid insight and kind words. I am still having issues with depression. It seemed at first to be caused by the smoking cessation but I'm not sure now. Kind of a chicken and egg question now. I'm beginning to think that there is a conflict going on but not sure who's to blame. All I know is that the combination of causes isn't working well together. Hope I can find a brain drug peddler who's not more screwed up than I am. Don't laugh, I know of 2 who have been committed. I have to get this under control or I'll have to pull the plug. The wrong medication is sometimes worse than no medication.

[sans pants]

This thread is most interesting. I replaced my analogs with ecigs and my nicotine intake has skyrocketed. The act of "smoking" was still there, but it did not scratch the itch by a long shot.

I have been analog free for a tad short of a month, weeks two and three were horrible. Depression, impulse control issues, and a massive lack of patience.

I may give snuff a shot, but I am a little concerned about the potential health risks.

I know it is a bit odd, but in the short time I have been lurking and active on this board it seems to be a trend where ex-smokers, or at least aspiring ex-smokers, become hyper critical of potential health issues regarding their new hobbies.