Nicotine intake up 58%!?

[ChainSmkr]

Originally Posted by Nuck

The numbers are flawed.

Yes, I've even heard that the smoking machines used to measure tar/nic content of an analog are not an exact science. The arguments being that (1) every smoker has a unique draw and (2) some inhale while others don't. Combine that with the exterior analog filters that I use and you get even less tar/nic. I don't know what my level of nic addiction is but at least I have a ballpark calculation.

[MarcE]

Great to know, thanks for your replies. I suppose without knowing any actual figures about the absorption of nicotine from an e-cig we aren’t going to know. However, like many other people it did take a bit of adjustment when changing to e-cigs like still having a *thirst* for an analogue cig. I can only hope this was due to a decrease in nicotine in the body. My concern is however if I am in taking more nicotine what on earth are the repercussions of this, I’m sure it cannot be as bad as an analogue I wouldn’t be feeling as healthy as I do now otherwise.

Nuck, you are correct in saying my percentage was way off, I calculated it wrong lol!! It really is an alarming 140%!!!! I’m also not a female lol

[MARK4567]

Originally Posted by MarcE

So now to my very rusty maths comparison

If one tobacco cig is around 1.0mg of nicotine and I got around 25 cigs to a pouch of tobacco I was smoking around 75 cigs a week, so that’s 75mg of nicotine.

As far as I can tell I vape around 10ml of 18mg e-juice a week. So if there’s 18mg per ml of liquid I’m now in taking around 180mg of nicotine (10ml x 18mg)

This is an alarming increase in nicotine intake of 58%!! Can this really be correct?

Your math is a little rusty...or mine is!!!
you take 100ml of liquid and add 1.8% pure nicotine=18mg liquid (3.6%=36mg etc)
Divide 100ml (@ 18mg solution) into 1ml=.18mg per 1ml
10ml per week=18mg total nicotine intake

[LuckySevens4U]

Originally Posted by DuneBuggy

I was a pack a day ULTRA LIGHT analog smoker and even with 18 mg fluid, felt a little "nicotine malnurished" the first week or so untill I adjusted.
A few drags on a reg cigarette confirmed this for me after my first couple days of vaping.

And I dont supliment analogs. I only vape.

I STRONGLY feel we are not NICOTINE malnurished. I was a pack a day smoker steady and I ONLY vape 11 and cut that. I do NOT go higher as many do. Our cravings are coming from the LOST CHEMICALS from tobacco we are not getting, not MORE nicotine. I think some people don't understand this and keep upping their nic. I really don't believe it's the nic that needs to be upped and we just have to get through those cravings. I'm STILL having them. When I vape 11 straight when I'm having them, all I get is a nic over dose and my head is spinning. I'm still craving analogs. It's the CHEMICALS we are NOT over with yet.

[Jaaxx]

Originally Posted by Nuck

The numbers are flawed. The rating for cigarettes is the amount that is absorbed into your bloodstream with an absorption efficiency of about 10%. The actual cigarette contains 10 times more nicotine than you take in.

We don't know what percentage of nicotine gets absorbed from vaping so there is no way to do a comparison. Until someone finds some published data the calculations are a best guess.

I think it IS safe to say you are not getting anywhere near 100% absorption.

Fantastic that people are paying attention! Yes, we do not know the absorption rate, which is why I push the "total conceivable nicotine" rate for calculation (ie the same that the OP is using (nic strength x ml per day).)

If it alarms you, cut back to a nic strength that brings the numbers back in line. You can't lose by doing this, unless you find that you have to go to analogs to make up the slack.

Jaaxx

[Jaaxx]

Originally Posted by MARK4567

Your math is a little rusty...or mine is!!!
you take 100ml of liquid and add 1.8% pure nicotine=18mg liquid (3.6%=36mg etc)
Divide 100ml (@ 18mg solution) into 1ml=.18mg per 1ml
10ml per week=18mg total nicotine intake

Mine may be a little flawed as well, but you're making it a little too complicated IMHO. Simple example...

If you have 24mg juice, that is 24mg of nic per ml

1 ml = appx 20 drops.

So if you vape 20 drops in day, you could be getting 24mg of nicotine maximum (if we absorb 100% of the nic in the vapor.)

Jaaxx

[MARK4567]

Jaaxx your right

i'm wrong

[Starlight]

Originally Posted by DuneBuggy

I was a pack a day ULTRA LIGHT analog smoker and even with 18 mg fluid, felt a little "nicotine malnurished" the first week or so untill I adjusted.
A few drags on a reg cigarette confirmed this for me after my first couple days of vaping.

And I dont supliment analogs. I only vape.

Me too, 2-3 packs a day of 0.1mg nic Ultra Light, without ever inhaling into my lungs.

Originally Posted by MonkeyMonk

A possible suggestion would be to try vaping using 2 different atomizers.

I haven't fully switched over either yet. That's what I did too, one atomiser for carts with 0 nic and one for carts with 11 nic and I was still using a pack a day of analogues. Then I accidentally tried some 18 mg (which I was cutting 50/50 before) and my use of analogues immediately dropped even further to half a pack, which took me a bit by surprise as I wasn't expecting it. So I now have 3 atomisers with the 3rd for 18 mg. I alternate between them all during the day. I've worked it out that half my usage is 0 mg per day or week, and the other half is a mix of the alternating between 11 and 18 mg. So, that would seem to be a lot more than my analogue intake of nic was when I was smoking 2-3 packs a day.

Originally Posted by LuckySevens4U

I STRONGLY feel we are not NICOTINE malnurished. I was a pack a day smoker steady and I ONLY vape 11 and cut that. I do NOT go higher as many do. Our cravings are coming from the LOST CHEMICALS from tobacco we are not getting, not MORE nicotine. I think some people don't understand this and keep upping their nic. I really don't believe it's the nic that needs to be upped and we just have to get through those cravings. I'm STILL having them. When I vape 11 straight when I'm having them, all I get is a nic over dose and my head is spinning. I'm still craving analogs. It's the CHEMICALS we are NOT over with yet.

I would agree that it might not all be due to nicotine but to some other ingredients, or I wouldn't still be having the few a day that I do. But, I did find that increasing the nic in my e-cigs helped me cut down analogues by a large amount. I've not once had any of the side-effects of a nic OD, yet I smoked such low nic analogues. I now only have about 5 or 6 a day, usually those morning ones and one after a meal and I don't crave analogues at all the rest of the time. Not once.

So none of it makes any sense to me

[flexy123]

Originally Posted by Nuck

The numbers are flawed. The rating for cigarettes is the amount that is absorbed into your bloodstream with an absorption efficiency of about 10%. The actual cigarette contains 10 times more nicotine than you take in.

We don't know what percentage of nicotine gets absorbed from vaping so there is no way to do a comparison. Until someone finds some published data the calculations are a best guess.

I think it IS safe to say you are not getting anywhere near 100% absorption.

thats funny, because i JUST read somewhere that vaping equals almost 99% of nicotine absorption!

Due to vaporization the liquid/nic enters the body more or less "directly". I also read that hardly any of it is exhaled again, so you can almost say that ALL of the nic in the fluid is actually going into the body.
Plus/Minus a SMALL amount which "puffs away" as otherwise is the case with a burning cig.

[Nuck]

Originally Posted by flexy123

thats funny, because i JUST read somewhere that vaping equals almost 99% of nicotine absorption!

Do you have a link?