Im sorry..but how is it possible that this thread has only 12 posts ? Seriously..........
Yet there are threads with 100's of posts on whether watching porn is cheating or why is my juice not producing TH..WoW
Or is it o.k. that these people basically flushed all that money down a toilet ? Are they not going to be held accountable ?
And most importantly did we learn anything ?
I think that just as in life, many people aren't interested in politics, activism, science, testing, research, big business, etc., until something effects them personally. As long as most aren't feeling at risk of losing their right to vape, they're content to leave the politics to the politicians! We can't force people to be proactive, but the easier it can be made for people to become aware of the need for their assistance, and show them some ways to help, the bigger the difference we can make collectively.
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As far as I am aware, a second data collection run has been done, the raw data is therefore all in, and what remains is the necessary analysis by an air quality scientist. Actual publication of the study in a reputable journal is the ultimate goal, but the needed funds for that final stage, an immense amount of work, have not been obtained yet. To be clear, it was known at the outset that all the needed funding had not been collected yet, and the decision was to go ahead with data collection, with the goal and hope of continuing fundraising to obtain enough for publication of the study.
vaping/smoking crusaders, and the media, the question on my mind is HOW the organizers intend to handle, or create an information flow so it does maximum good?
I know that I see and "feel" the benefits of an organization like CASAA on a daily basis. They're very visible and equally transparent about their business. NVC seems to be more loosely put together, and that concerns me that while they have the right motivation, they may or may not have the strength or ability. I applaud anyone who does something to promote awareness of the positive things we know so far about vaping, and I want to financially support the studies underway or needed, but I need to know more about "who" I'm giving money to.
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I have contributed a lot of money to CASAA, but only $100 to this IVAQS project.
From what I have seen, the money I donated to CASAA is well spent.
From what I have seen so far, money given to NVC is a crap shoot.
I think there is an "internal" reason why NVC does not post here much, if at all.
And for that I don't really blame them, unless they should be to blame.
Because I really don't know the story very well.
But the lack of information on this forum regarding what is happening with my money is disturbing.
Although I kinda suspected that might be the case going in.
It seems to me they are two different organizations with two different approaches.
However, disorganization is not something I'm willing to support for long.
Last edited by DC2; 06-07-2011 at 08:33 PM.
Yes, you did assume. Wrongly.
The second data collection run took place, after that admitted disaster of an "update" (yes, I heard it).
There are a lot of people throwing around unfounded and wild accusations and rumors. While the initial speaking out on the first set of data without the benefit of a full understanding of what the raw numbers meant was a huge mistake, nobody has been "taken", and the study is yet to be finalized, as I wrote above (and yes, I donated too).