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    Default Organizations with the Ability to Listen - Please Read First

    A little history on how this thread came about:

    In the thread http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/for...tml#post560774 SheriD noted that the best way to get the ecig/PV message out in KY would be to go through a group like Reclaiming Liberty! :: Bluegrass Institute for Public Policy Solutions They are for freedom of choice, open markets, etc. They also greatly oppose the smoking ban.

    Then in Ohio, while researching for California, I found The Buckeye Institute for Public Policy Solutions

    If we look back at history, specifically the smoking bans, when one state goes, they all follow suit shortly thereafter. It is most important that we be as proactive as possible, which IMHO, we are all doing a most excellent job.

    It is time to turn our voices to independent organizations who will listen to us. Who accept that while smoking tobacco cigarettes is not the most healthy option of choice, being able to choose an alternative is our freedom to do and we should be continued that right.

    For those who know organizations who have the ability to listen and possibly help us spread our message, please feel free to post those in this thread. IMHO, that's where our letter writing campaigns need to begin to focus.

    It would be most helpful as well if you do know of an organization, we do need someone from every state to help focus other constituents of said states in the right direction. Help gather info/persons for your state... In any thread where you see someone who seems as if they would be interested in participating in sending a letter, to encourage them to do so.

    If we can get enough states together, I will organize and with the help of a mod, hopefully get a stickied thread so it can be easily referenced by state.

    May the next spaghetti fling begin!

    EDIT: I have deliberately not just posted contact information, but info to the organizations website. IMHO, it is very important that if you do choose to contact any of these organizations, which I hope you do, you take a moment to read through their website, understanding who they are how to address them. You might find a contact that works for you and that is what is important. You might find that you don't necessarily agree with a particular groups mission and that is all right too.
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    CAGE Canada is very good. CAGE
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    And the first campaigning sub-forum is set!

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    Thanks Smokey!

    OHIOANS:

    From Sherid on another thread:

    The Buckeye Institute for Public Policy Solutions
    Here is their stance of smoking bans, "Meanwhile, the conservative Buckeye Institute is suing the state, saying Ohio is too strictly enforcing the statewide smoking ban that voters approved in 2006."

    So, yes, they would definitely be a great group to back this. As some of us have said for a long time now, you cannot distance yourself from the smokers because the issue is exactly the same. I am disgusted every time I hear someone on here resort to the language of the anti-smokers when they refer to smoking and smokers. Ironically, nearly everyone who posts this garbage was himself a smoker a week or couple of months ago. Anyone writing to any of these groups should not write at all if they are going to use a sense of superiority over smokers. These groups back freedom from bans. They see any ban as encroaching.

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    Lacey - perhaps you should post your last post as a new thread too?

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    omg, I am somewhere between 2 threads...but they are the same...

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    Default A good place to dig through...


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    Here's one possibility for Pennsylvania Commonwealth Foundation
    They have a small section on smoking though it is sadly out of date:
    Smoking
    I'll keep looking for something a little more active.

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    I think there needs to be some focus on New York state. This state has a history of pioneering new laws and trying to break or overturn old ones "for the public good." A few examples:

    1) New York was one of the first states to issue a state-wide smoking ban in all public places, including privately-owned businesses.

    2) New York was the first state to ban use of a hand-held cell phone while driving, requiring use of a headset instead, before studies were done showing why. Long after this bill was passed, studies came out showing that using a headset makes no difference because it is not the occupation of your hands that makes this dangerous, its the distraction. New York still has not done anything to change the law incorporating this new information. (Not e-cig related, but it shows how New York state handles things.)

    3) For several years the government of New York state has been trying to force Native American reservations to apply state taxes to their sales of cigarettes and gas, violating international treaties that were laid down hundreds of years ago to protect the sovereignty of the Indian Nations.

    4) The recent debacle in Suffolk county, of which we are all well aware.

    Based on all of this, I believe that New York will become one of the first states to ban electronic cigarettes. They have a history of putting taxes and "public health" before the rights of the people, and they enjoy passing legislation that gets them noticed by the nation.

    Unfortunately i'm having a real hard time finding any New York state citizen's group that could help us in that state (besides the vaper's clubs that we already know). i've tried a number of searches but all i keep coming up with are the COUNTLESS ny state government departments who take the same ASH-style anti-smoking stance as everyone else.

    If anyone knows of an organization in New York (or how to find them), please post!!

    "The very powerful and the very stupid have one thing in common. Instead of altering their views to fit the facts, they alter the facts to fit their views... which can be very uncomfortable if you happen to be one of the facts that needs altering." – Doctor Who

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