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aquatiq · 10-27-2009, 02:46 AM

I don't think that I can add links yet, but THIS organization is tailor made for our situation. However, if you are the type of person who thinks that controlling people--except where eCigs are concerned (of course)--is OK, then you probably won't like this place. Otherwise, if you believe in freedom, individual rights, and getting the government out of your life, then feel free to fall in love with the ideas expressed there.

www aynrand org <--insert dots in spaces (2)

C!

angjen0816 · 10-29-2009, 01:22 AM

Ayn Rand was an excellent author, she was definately a supporter of human rights. All of her heroic characters were smokers BTW

Vocalek · 10-29-2009, 03:31 PM

This is a good article:

The Ayn Rand Center for Individual Rights: Anti-Smoking Paternalism: A Cancer on American Liberty

chayce · 10-29-2009, 07:19 PM

Atlas Shrugged is my favorite book. It's sad to see that the world has mostly become what she wrote. It's not so much prophetic as it is a solid analysis of the direction of the world.

ladyraj · 10-29-2009, 11:06 PM

One of my favorites as well. When I was 15, I read Anthem and the change of terminology from the collective "we" to "I" was very powerful.

navyboym · 10-29-2009, 11:59 PM

This organisation would most definately be on our side.

Justncredible · 10-30-2009, 09:23 PM

It will be hit or miss with the "randians". I do agree with alot of what they stand for, and I mean alot, about 80%. I will suggest 1 person from here contact them, and they will need to word the discourse carefully. As fate/coincidence/synchronicity would have it Lew Rockwell just happened to have a piece about the "randians" on his website today.

Mozart Was a Red by Murray N. Rothbard

Talk about random happenings. It should provide a little insight into whoever is chosen to contact them. She goes a little far into the individualism thing for me. I think a person can be part of a group based on self intrest and empathy for others without a loss of individualism.

DonDaBoomVape · 10-31-2009, 12:50 AM

Ever since Branden and Rand broke up ... and then a few years later David Kelly (not David E. Kelly of Boston Legal) was drummed out of official Objectivist movement headed by Miss Rand's "heir," Leonard Peikoff ... there have been two camps: the Ayn Rand Institute (paying homage to Peikoff) and The Atlas Society (independent thinkers loosely affiliated with Kelly). [By my loaded phrasing, you can see where I stand.

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I think we have a much greater chance with the Kelly people. They do not hold that Objectivism is a "closed" system, i.e., they are loyal to basic principles but open to new ideas.

IM(not so H)O

Justncredible · 10-31-2009, 03:02 AM

Good info Don, my vote is for you to open some sort of dialogue.

I do not think any leftist leaning groups will help E-Cigs, as they only want to exert controls on everything.

alsmom · 10-31-2009, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chayce

Atlas Shrugged is my favorite book. It's sad to see that the world has mostly become what she wrote. It's not so much prophetic as it is a solid analysis of the direction of the world.

And The Fountainhead! Wasn't Glen Beck one of the characters in that book!

10-27-2009, 02:46 AM	#1
aquatiq Unregistered Supplier Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Atlanta, GA Posts: 13	Ayn Rand Institute / Ayn Rand Center for Individual Rights I don't think that I can add links yet, but THIS organization is tailor made for our situation. However, if you are the type of person who thinks that controlling people--except where eCigs are concerned (of course)--is OK, then you probably won't like this place. Otherwise, if you believe in freedom, individual rights, and getting the government out of your life, then feel free to fall in love with the ideas expressed there. www aynrand org <--insert dots in spaces (2) C!

10-29-2009, 01:22 AM	#2
angjen0816 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Menasha, WI Posts: 286	Ayn Rand was an excellent author, she was definately a supporter of human rights. All of her heroic characters were smokers BTW __________________ To Vape, Is Divine

10-29-2009, 03:31 PM	#3
Vocalek Super Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Springfield, VA Posts: 613	This is a good article: The Ayn Rand Center for Individual Rights: Anti-Smoking Paternalism: A Cancer on American Liberty __________________

10-30-2009, 09:23 PM	#7
Justncredible Super Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 359	It will be hit or miss with the "randians". I do agree with alot of what they stand for, and I mean alot, about 80%. I will suggest 1 person from here contact them, and they will need to word the discourse carefully. As fate/coincidence/synchronicity would have it Lew Rockwell just happened to have a piece about the "randians" on his website today. Mozart Was a Red by Murray N. Rothbard Talk about random happenings. It should provide a little insight into whoever is chosen to contact them. She goes a little far into the individualism thing for me. I think a person can be part of a group based on self intrest and empathy for others without a loss of individualism. __________________ I voted Libertarian. I voted for you to have choices and freedom, you voted to enslave me.

10-31-2009, 12:50 AM	#8
DonDaBoomVape Supporting Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: South Florida Posts: 556	Ever since Branden and Rand broke up ... and then a few years later David Kelly (not David E. Kelly of Boston Legal) was drummed out of official Objectivist movement headed by Miss Rand's "heir," Leonard Peikoff ... there have been two camps: the Ayn Rand Institute (paying homage to Peikoff) and The Atlas Society (independent thinkers loosely affiliated with Kelly). [By my loaded phrasing, you can see where I stand. ] I think we have a much greater chance with the Kelly people. They do not hold that Objectivism is a "closed" system, i.e., they are loyal to basic principles but open to new ideas. IM(not so H)O __________________ DonDaBoomVape ... bum, bum! The Wonderful World of Vaping: An Illustrated Guide to E-cigs I am, therefore I think ... differently from most, apparently. Last edited by DonDaBoomVape; 10-31-2009 at 01:28 AM.

10-29-2009, 07:19 PM	#4
chayce Full Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 18	Atlas Shrugged is my favorite book. It's sad to see that the world has mostly become what she wrote. It's not so much prophetic as it is a solid analysis of the direction of the world.

10-29-2009, 11:06 PM	#5
ladyraj Super Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 830	One of my favorites as well. When I was 15, I read Anthem and the change of terminology from the collective "we" to "I" was very powerful.

10-29-2009, 11:59 PM	#6
navyboym Full Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: California Posts: 28	This organisation would most definately be on our side.

10-31-2009, 03:02 AM	#9
Justncredible Super Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 359	Good info Don, my vote is for you to open some sort of dialogue. I do not think any leftist leaning groups will help E-Cigs, as they only want to exert controls on everything. __________________ I voted Libertarian. I voted for you to have choices and freedom, you voted to enslave me.

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