I fully support trying to get Alex on this issue. He's boisterous and loud, but sometimes that is needed to get heard.
I'm sure that Alex being loud and boisterous will win over the support and understanding that American vapers need...
I don't care what your opinion may or may not be of Alex Jones, facts are facts: the man is a bulldog. When he gets involved in a cause, he jumps in head first.
While mainstream media thinks he's a kook, look at where telling the mainstream media has gotten us. WE are not mainstream, folks. People think that we're kooks, too. And if we're not mainstream and mainstream press isn't working, then by God, we need to march into alternative news and let it leak into the mainstream that way.
At least the alternative news stations and personalities like Alex are open minded enough to at least try to listen. Mainstream news doesn't give a *^&% whether you have a cause or not; they care about what's in it for them. I think at the moment, Alex has bigger fish to fry, what with that Copenhagen climate BS going on and whatnot. But, if he was educated on the matter, he might jump on our bandwagon.
You need people with influence. People who can win over popular public opinion on a large scale, people who can speak eloquantly and with knowledge about the subject.
I see people like Kristin and others busting their asses to present a mature, rational, reasoned argument for e-cigs on your behalf, people who have a GENUINE involvement and interest in seeing this thrive...then I see folks saying "lets get Alex Jones to shout at people and call them sheep, dumies, idiots etc".
Alex Jones would use this to further his agenda...not yours.
Bottom line: I know who I would rather have on my side if this was going on in my country...
I first ran into Alex Jones 6 years ago and thought who the * is this guy?
Unfortunately most of the things he says is true ... if not all. Everyone should watch Freedom to Fascism by Arron Russo ... it is the truth, period.
Easy to label things as a conspiracy theory rather than try to investigate it. The truth is out there, do you want it told to you, or do you want to tell it?
Co-intel pro is alive and well in America today.
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I liked this one as well. Very compelling information.
Originally Posted by MikeLC
I also liked The Money Masters by Bill Still
I heard alex talking recently:
"And the hackers got all the secret documents, how they, how the big fake environmentalists admit its all a lie, the earth is cooling, carbon dioxide's good for you and These People KNEW it the WHOLE TIME."
I really don't think he would make a good public face. If he were to join up to the cause more power to him, but.. heh.. yah.
Originally Posted by me who
Exellent flic ... that was one of the first Fed films I saw. The religious overtones probably would turn some off to it, but it was very intensive.
The Creature from Jeckyl Island (sp) is a fantastic book as well. I first read that in '96. Had to order it from Germany because you couldn't get it here. G. Edward Griffin is F2F as well.
Any of you who follow Peter Schiff, his dad, Irwin Schiff is the guy who was jailed for 13 years for citing the law in F2F ... lots of astute individuals in that movie ... Joe Bannister is one of my favorites, a true patriot.
Link to the movie:
America: Freedom to Fascism - Director's Authorized Version
I actually got to talk with Arron at the premier in Los Angeles in 05, at that time he knew nothing about naked short selling (the counterfeiting of financial instruments) on wall street. Now it is all main stream news ... but still spoken in whispers. I'm proud to say I was part of the group that exposed it starting 8 years ago for me, others in my group have been fighting it for 12 years now. The US will never be the same because of it.
Byrne of overstock has taken a lot of heat about NSS, you can read all about him here: Deep Capture Blog
The last time NSS cause a big problem was 1929 ... they called it watering down the stock. If you own stock in an online brokerage account, and do not have the physical stock certificate, it is probably fake ... I can go on and on, but if your interested in this please research it. The rabbit hole goes really deep!
Like I said the truth is out there ....
I am sure many republicans think Glen Beck does not help their cause yet due to his radical ideas and thorough research he has helped to nail ACORN and Van Jones.Positive support from multiple sources is the key. If this is a start then it is a start. Has Alex Jones done or said anything that has directly caused harm to America? If notthan it makes any accusations by the FDA baseless. If so then he will be more of a liability than an asset.
Originally Posted by Mustang394