Is there a better atomizer design?

[jarvis]

I started a review thread for the rn4081 or super cigarette a few months ago.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/php...--t272s50.html
All was going fine until a burnt taste about a month into smoking it. I've since gone through 3 atomizers, which aren't expensive, but I'm just wondering if all other ecig atomizers are constructed the same way. The Huge design flaw in these is there is a synthetic fiber that the vaporizing element/wire is wrapped around that is used to keep the e-liquid around the coil. If the fiber gets the slightest bit dry or too hot, it will burn. You may not notice this at first, but eventually it will burn to the point where you can taste/smell it. Now I have tried removing the fiber completely, but as I suspected, it is what is keeping the heating coil from burning up completely, which it did after the first puff, it snapped. So if anyone has taken apart or knows how other atomizers are constructed, ones that have a more permanent method of vaporizing e-liquid, please let me know, as I'd like to buy one and get away from this super cigarette design.

[NerdyCinderella]

Originally Posted by jarvis

....The Huge design flaw in these is there is a synthetic fiber that the vaporizing element/wire is wrapped around that is used to keep the e-liquid around the coil. ....

jarvis,
Could you explain more about the above statement. Is this generally accepted as the basic design of the atomizers by the members here? I ask because I've been trying to understand the construction of these ecigs and I haven't heard this before about fibers inserted into the atomizer purposely/by design. I thought up until now that any fibers in or around the atomizer was a bad thing and came from the cartridge fibers.
Thank you.

[jarvis]

Here's a quick cross section I drew in ms paint of the atomizer showing where the fiber is.

The heating element is coiled around this fiber, the capillary effect leaches e-liquid onto the fiber via the steel wool via the cartridge and when the coil heats up it's vaporized. If there is no e-liquid, or if the coil gets too hot, the fiber burns, and eventually you will start to taste this. After a while the fiber turns into a little black lump and your atomizer is rendered useless.

[windblown]

Nice job, Jarvis! Obviously you're not just another pretty face! :mrgreen:

[leaford]

There's another thread on this, so yes, other membbers have noticed the fibers too. They're like the wick in a candle.

[dnakr]

I like the drawing. Now I know where the fibre is suppose to be. Thanks...

[jarvis]

In this picture that I also posted in the Super Cigarette review thread you can also see, right under the vaporizing coil (F), the black lump and crumbs that the fiber has fused into.

[NerdyCinderella]

Originally Posted by jarvis

I started a review thread for the rn4081 or super cigarette a few months ago.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/php...--t272s50.html
All was going fine until a burnt taste about a month into smoking it. I've since gone through 3 atomizers, which aren't expensive, but I'm just wondering if all other ecig atomizers are constructed the same way. The Huge design flaw in these is there is a synthetic fiber that the vaporizing element/wire is wrapped around that is used to keep the e-liquid around the coil. If the fiber gets the slightest bit dry or too hot, it will burn. You may not notice this at first, but eventually it will burn to the point where you can taste/smell it. Now I have tried removing the fiber completely, but as I suspected, it is what is keeping the heating coil from burning up completely, which it did after the first puff, it snapped. So if anyone has taken apart or knows how other atomizers are constructed, ones that have a more permanent method of vaporizing e-liquid, please let me know, as I'd like to buy one and get away from this super cigarette design.

pics Jarvis.
Hope someone can answer your question. I'm a long way off before I start taking these things apart.

[Minus Sign]

Answer to question:

Yes; these are, to loosely quote TB, dumbed down versions of the original patent. But no; I've seen none of the superior designs marketed for sale to the public yet. There is a lonely thread in Tips and Tricks in which a few people are discussing home built construction of atomizers.

[jarvis]

Yes; these are, to loosely quote TB, dumbed down versions of the original patent.

Ah, it seems the initial design was for an actual atomizer and not just a coil that vaporizes liquids. So I guess all e-cigs went the cheap and easy route with this coil/fiber design and just chose to pretend it was high tech? Has anyone broken a more expensive brand's "atomizer" down and found any other technology?