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chayce · 09-08-2009, 07:51 PM

The super caps that are available now would make it possible. It would last about as long as a cigarette per charge, but it would charge in a couple seconds. Sure I'm not talking hours of use but a lot of people, myself included, would be willing for the trade off. Plus super caps don't wear out the same way batteries do.

LameBMX · 09-09-2009, 01:47 PM

So whats the math with these "super caps" since a regular cap the discharge time constant is dependent upon the resistance of the discharge path. In the case of E-cigs out atomizers heating elements are 3-4 ohms. for a 3 to 4 second discharge time you would be looking somewhere along the lines of a 1 fared capacitor(math may be off by a factor of 10 its been a long while). which is neither cheap nor small. A regular capacitor of this capacity would be around 3" diameter and 6" tall. if its .1 fared or 100mf it would still be somewhat screwdriver handle size.

but this is sliding off topic for this thread which is about pcc's not the cigs themselves.

chayce · 09-09-2009, 03:56 PM

Math seems about right. Sizewise you should be able to fit a 5F 5v supercap in a battery tube, but I can't find any the right shape in a quick google search. I still say we need a PCC/Battery combo where you can charge a fully assembled e-cigarette. Would need contractors at the atty band. If I find a cap the right dimensions I will give it a shot.

Deschain · 10-29-2009, 06:32 PM

I'd love to see one around the size of a 20 pack...and as for holding a 10ml or even a 5ml bottle, oh yes!

Must haves for me...

2x cells
2x attys
2x carts
1x bottle (even a slimmed down 5ml or 10ml would work)

Rounded corners, possibly plastic build instead of metal

If the above is doable, then I'd snap a few up in a flash.

I don't actually own a PPC yet, so I can't comment on these connection problems, I am vainly hoping to see a new improved model for christmas though...

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MadeyeTony · 10-29-2009, 06:36 PM

Why not a PCC with multiple adapters that could be compatible with most if not all current PVs?

djguido · 10-29-2009, 08:17 PM

I would like the same thing except for my M402....can't believe no one makes a PCC for this

10-29-2009, 06:32 PM	#14
Deschain Super Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: England Posts: 657	I'd love to see one around the size of a 20 pack...and as for holding a 10ml or even a 5ml bottle, oh yes! Must haves for me... 2x cells 2x attys 2x carts 1x bottle (even a slimmed down 5ml or 10ml would work) Rounded corners, possibly plastic build instead of metal If the above is doable, then I'd snap a few up in a flash. I don't actually own a PPC yet, so I can't comment on these connection problems, I am vainly hoping to see a new improved model for christmas though... . __________________

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09-08-2009, 07:51 PM	#11
chayce Full Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 18	The super caps that are available now would make it possible. It would last about as long as a cigarette per charge, but it would charge in a couple seconds. Sure I'm not talking hours of use but a lot of people, myself included, would be willing for the trade off. Plus super caps don't wear out the same way batteries do.

09-09-2009, 01:47 PM	#12
LameBMX Full Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Stow, OH Posts: 76	So whats the math with these "super caps" since a regular cap the discharge time constant is dependent upon the resistance of the discharge path. In the case of E-cigs out atomizers heating elements are 3-4 ohms. for a 3 to 4 second discharge time you would be looking somewhere along the lines of a 1 fared capacitor(math may be off by a factor of 10 its been a long while). which is neither cheap nor small. A regular capacitor of this capacity would be around 3" diameter and 6" tall. if its .1 fared or 100mf it would still be somewhat screwdriver handle size. but this is sliding off topic for this thread which is about pcc's not the cigs themselves.

09-09-2009, 03:56 PM	#13
chayce Full Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 18	Math seems about right. Sizewise you should be able to fit a 5F 5v supercap in a battery tube, but I can't find any the right shape in a quick google search. I still say we need a PCC/Battery combo where you can charge a fully assembled e-cigarette. Would need contractors at the atty band. If I find a cap the right dimensions I will give it a shot.

10-29-2009, 06:36 PM	#15
MadeyeTony Full Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Michigan Posts: 44	Why not a PCC with multiple adapters that could be compatible with most if not all current PVs?

10-29-2009, 08:17 PM	#16
djguido Full Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 13	I would like the same thing except for my M402....can't believe no one makes a PCC for this