Check this out...

**Ludo** · 07-03-2008, 08:50 AM

TEST:

http://www.elektrisches-rauchen.com/...n-Test-ab.html

PICS:

http://www.elektrisches-rauchen.com/...ab%21%21%21%21

http://www.elektrisches-rauchen.com/...ab%21%21%21%21

**TropicalBob** · 07-03-2008, 07:19 PM

What's that all about? I don't apologize, but I read only English. Anything important or just more ad stuff?

**Ludo** · 07-03-2008, 07:24 PM

You might wanna use google translate. I think the pictures speak for themselves...

**Kit** · 07-03-2008, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by SmokeyJoe

My experiences of drip-smoking have led me to the belief that a device able to provide larger quantities of nicotine solution to the atomizer would produce a denser, more authentic experience.

Clearly there would have to be a radical re-design to enable this. Currently, the liquid is delivered via the wadding in the cartridge, and the flow into the atomizer is limited by the physics inherent in the design. Additionally, the liquid would have to be made weaker, given the larger quantities being delivered.

The solution might be to have the liquid delivered in measured doses via a mechanical system incorporated into the cartridge. The wadding would be done away with and a partially sealed area created in the cartridge for the liquid. Perhaps a miniature version of the valve found on shower gel bottles could be used, or maybe the viscosity of the liquid would mean that a small hole could be used without the fluid leaking.

Pressing the end of the cartridge would force a measured amount of solution through into the atomizer.

Just thoughts!.......

SJ

That sounds like a ace idea Joe manufacturers take note :idea:

**Ludo** · 07-03-2008, 07:48 PM

Till now the only way to deliver the liquid to the atomizer is through the wadding, some have tried to overcome atomizer problems by designing a trow away atomizer, some have designed it in a way the heating filament sticks inside the wadding (which cause it to burn of course!).. we are trying to come up with a solution whereby the liquid doesn't even touch the atomizer and surely not the heating filament. Development takes time, I recon a year form now we might have a demomodel for testing...

**RatInDaHat** · 07-03-2008, 07:49 PM

The pictures show burnt stuff, but no mention of the manufacturer, model, etc. If you are going to post something like that it would be nice to have a few details to go off of.

If you are going to trash another product you should at least include the basics. Who, What, When, Where, Why and How. Scare tactics alone can be bad for business.

-Dusty-

**Ludo** · 07-03-2008, 07:52 PM

I don't know what you're talking about. It doesn't matter who's the manufacturer, that's not the issue here. This thread is investigating possible liquid delivery ideas, and this is an example of a bad idea.

**Ludo** · 07-03-2008, 08:03 PM

QUOTE: "the viscosity of the liquid"

That's an important factor. The thicker the liquid, the more residue on the heating filament, the sooner the atomizer cloaks. There's some tests about this subject, this one for example:
Ampul Liquid proef - FreE-Smokers

use google translate for the texts

**bishybob** · 07-03-2008, 08:07 PM

That looks pretty bad. I've been interested in the atomizer/cartridge combos such as the Longtotem one you posted. I was thinking of getting one for my grandma. She wouldn't be able to deal with replacing atomizers or worrying about cartridges, so I thought something like that would be perfect for her. Something needs to be done about the inside of the cartridge burning like that. They have the right idea but the execution is bad.