Solution delivery idea

[SmokeyJoe]

My experiences of drip-smoking have led me to the belief that a device able to provide larger quantities of nicotine solution to the atomizer would produce a denser, more authentic experience.

Clearly there would have to be a radical re-design to enable this. Currently, the liquid is delivered via the wadding in the cartridge, and the flow into the atomizer is limited by the physics inherent in the design. Additionally, the liquid would have to be made weaker, given the larger quantities being delivered.

The solution might be to have the liquid delivered in measured doses via a mechanical system incorporated into the cartridge. The wadding would be done away with and a partially sealed area created in the cartridge for the liquid. Perhaps a miniature version of the valve found on shower gel bottles could be used, or maybe the viscosity of the liquid would mean that a small hole could be used without the fluid leaking.

Pressing the end of the cartridge would force a measured amount of solution through into the atomizer.

Just thoughts!.......

SJ

[dnakr]

A lot of people are trying to find ways around the wadding in the cartridge or to make it last longer. On a different forum there are some very creative people.

One has tried "coarse steel wool" - which I just tried last night and I have to say it does work very well. I only had to refill one time today.

I had to use a language translator:
http://translate.google.com/translate?h ... s%26sa%3DN then go to page 4.....

Another one has tried: a "piece of cut rope", unravelled and folded back into the holder, then cut to length - he says so far he has only had to fill it 1 time a day. (this one I will try tonight).

http://64.233.179.104/translate_c?hl=en ... s%26sa%3DN

[SmokeyJoe]

I will also give it a go!

The thing is, though, that you still wouldn't get the volume of liquid into the atomizer necessary to produce the density of vapor you get from putting a drop or two straight into the atomizer. Or would you?!

Thanks for the info

SJ

[woody]

Let's hope lots of manufacturers and suppliers are reading these ideas. We need some brilliant new designs in case the liquid gets banned. In the "Mini" the cartridge is much closer to the atomiser but that only seems to achieve providing a mouthful of liquid nicotine

[dnakr]

Well I tried the "cut rope" technique last night and found that I like the "steel wool" much much better. It could be that I just packed too much rope into the holder but it seems to me that I had better luck with the steel wool.

Has anyone else tried these yet? Let me know what you think.

Rachel

[woody]

You might be inhaling dangerous "heavy metals" using steel wool

[Atrack421]

Wow, some genius thoughts here fellas. But you might be harming your body with chemicals from the cut rope, or metal.

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[LVD]

I've been on that Dutch forum a lot and found the following replacements for the filling of the cartriges:

Fine mesh in surgical steel as used in aircondition filters. Do not use normal steel wool since this rusts and could provide a health risk

Cut rope made of natural fibre. Synthetic rope will burn and could be more dangerous than conventional cigarettes.

The white wool used in filters of fish thanks. Do not use cotton for the same reason as above.

I've been using the last one. One pak of wool will last you for years and it is easy to use. It does require a bit of experimenting on how much to use to fill the cartridge: to little and it leaks, to much and the cartridge delivers not enough fluid. Use just enough to hold the liquid in place even when turning the cartridge upside down. This give the most capacity for liquid, and maximises the flow to the atomiser. This is very comparable to the dripping method onto the atomizer(*). Injecting directly into the atomizer onto the coil however gives you the maximum smoke, taste and feeling.

(*) there is a lot difference between brands, types and even two atomizers from the same brand and type. My feeling is you have to be a bit lucky to get a good one, when buying.

[TropicalBob]

This is fun. Kinda like finding the perfect cigarette filter. Maybe I could shave down an old Kent Micronite filter and stuff it in the cartridge! Reckon a charcoal model would be better? Nah, might get a barbecue taste with that one. My Savinelli pipes use balsa filters. My Brigham pipes use maple. Course, we have to deliver moisture, not absorb it. One can't substitute for the other. A better cartridge material? Let's keep thinking.

[SmokeyJoe]

Great stuff guys!

I'm gonna get some of that white wool stuff (is it called rockwool?) and give it a go.....

SJ