Improved liquid request

**TropicalBob** · 07-21-2008, 04:02 AM

That's why we use Bickford flavor. You want taste? Take your pick. If you want nic, mix Bickford and E-Liquid. My wife complained tonight, though, that I was "smelling up the room" with exhales of Bickford Kahlua mix. Hmmm. Imagination?

**CaSHMeRe** · 07-21-2008, 04:04 AM

Originally Posted by TropicalBob

That's why we use Bickford flavor. You want taste? Take your pick. If you want nic, mix Bickford and E-Liquid. My wife complained tonight, though, that I was "smelling up the room" with exhales of Bickford Kahlua mix. Hmmm. Imagination?

haha. I noticed both the coffee flavor and kahlua flavor from Bickfords do "smell" ... Not a bad smell per say, just smelling like the flavor they are

I love the way coffee smells, so neither bother me.

Kaylua isn't for the faint of heart, it can be quite strong

**katink** · 07-21-2008, 01:55 PM

What IS Kahlua, TB? I see you talking about it a lot... getting curious by now, just what it is?

Oh and perhaps interesting for e-smokers: I have asked KnutselPeter (the best known dutch tester) to test both tasteless from e-cig, and a Bickford flavor (gave him apple to try).
The Bickford came out as being unbelievably clean for the atomiser... best tested of all liquids he has tested so far.
And as for the tasteless from e-cig: it does have sóme residue. But far, far less then other e-cig liquids that were tested so far (I do think the 'tobacco-tastes' are an inbetween category though, inbetween tasteless and 'fruit-tastes' as to potential to harm atomizers).
Or said differently: fruit-liquors from e-cig might clog up your atomizer beyond cleaning-possibility relatively quickly; tobacco-tastes from e-cig will lead to having to clean your atomizer regularly; and tasteless from e-cig might make cleaning the atomizer neccessary at fairly long intervals (perhaps once a month or so).

So the mix I am using: tasteless 24 (to keep that part of the mix as low as possible) + Bickford flavors +, if taste gets too strong, some pure PG added (I do plan to replace this part by glycerine soon) adds up to a mix, that doesn't cost much and that keeps the atomizers a whole lot cleaner then any 'pure' e-cig liquid - and probably also cleaner then some other known liquids (need to get a list yet of comparative tests to get the correct followorder of the different now known liquids).

**TropicalBob** · 07-21-2008, 02:50 PM

Great discovery on Bickford and tasteless..

Kahlua, BTW, is just a kind of intense coffee flavor. When I write "Kahlua," I'm referring to the Bickford flavor of that name. Kahlua also is an excellent liquor, and Drew Estate makes Kahlua cigars in all sizes. It's like an espresso in its intense coffee flavor. Nice aftertaste when I e-smoke it.

**azE** · 07-21-2008, 11:16 PM

do bickfords ship internationally - is their an alternative in europe

i remember someone saying you can add vanilla essence - can that be done

**Kate** · 07-21-2008, 11:27 PM

Aze, Bickfords do ship internationally but you have to email them, their website is only set up for orders to North America.

**azE** · 07-21-2008, 11:58 PM

TB gonna be pissed answering these questions - but this site is becoming a nightmare to navigate through with all these post (which isn't a bad thing)

say if I have an ordinary tobacco flavoured cart (penstyle and unused) how many drops of bickfords should you use - I am tempted to get some kahlua, caramel and strawberry

**katink** · 07-22-2008, 12:20 AM

Thanks for enlightening me on what Kahlua is TB; sounds like what I know (as liquor that is) as 'oriental cafe' over here then. And I can assure you, as to e-liquid, that I will leave it all at Bickford for you to get

(their ordinary coffee-taste is too strong for me allready, hehe)