The Steam Engine - calculators for wrapping coils, checking battery drain, and mixing e-juice.
Here is another way to look at the big picture. First their was DOS with lots of typing. /LOL Then along came the GUI crowd and that's Mac and then Windows. I saw the same kind of rationalization, myopic viewpoints, half truths, and specious remarks from the DOS crowd after the GUI came out. My gosh, they kept it up for years and years. It was always humorous to watch some of the wildest arguments I've ever seen.
Guess what? Pure DOS for desktop applications is a distant memory. Yes I know Windows sits on top of it and the Mac sits on top of Unix or some variant. Kapish! Those company's that either could not or would not open their "eyes" to the marketplace and continued to hang their hat on an outdated and antiquated DOS are gone forever. I certainly hope this does not happen to ProVape.
Lets see, is it 8 or 9 clicks to lower my voltage!
Good luck to all and thanks for an interesting read.
Can we please get rid of the antique and outdated 510 and eGo connection on both mods and attys? The industry needs a new standard.
Spring loaded centre terminal.
Better still, adjustable !, such as the Semovar.
His and hers designs, not just colours but size and shape.
Hmm, maybe a Provari made of cut glass, and maybe the inner workings could be encased in something shiney, including the battery space.
Last edited by evan le'garde; 03-08-2014 at 06:41 PM.
Like every other VW vs VV discussion has pointed out, VW is a set it and forget variable setting. Now, this does not mean set it and never change it, or that it will somehow taste your juice and automatically change the wattage to the juices optimal wattage, as some have foolishly said. Yes, you will still adjust your wattage to your preferred setting for each juice, etc... HOWEVER, unlike variable voltage, variable wattage does not require changing settings each time you screw a new device on top of your mod or when you change heads in your atty. You will know what wattage you like for your setup, juice, etc.. and will find that with VW you rarely have to adjust it.
I can hear what you're thinking now, "I know what voltage I like and I set my ProVari for that voltage and never change it"... Ya, OK, so in this scenario, you will run into a known issue where coils change resistance over time, and today, your Provari's VV settings doesn't fluctuate to accommodate these changes. So what happens? Your vaping experience changes! You either change your voltage because you taste that your vape experience changed, or you just live with it, without understanding why it taste different or isn't performing as well. Plain and simple!
So how does this experience play well with newcomers who have no clue what ohms are, or why it would change over the life of a coil or different type of head?
Now, with VW, it detects those fluctuations, on the fly, and updates the voltage settings on your behalf. Why is this a bad thing?
Same scenario with these wildly varying heads that we buy (or build) for Protanks, M3's, etc.. How many times have you bought a head that claimed 1.8ohms and actually tested to 1.8? I would guestimate 50%, at best... I've seen 1.8ohm coils test at 1.6-2.0 many many times. Why not just know that you like your Bobas Bounty at 10 watts and not give a piss about what ohms your coil is? Why is this a bad thing?
Please explain why you are so against VW? I've asked several times in this thread and only found one decent answer. "It adds another menu item to scroll through". Every other response was basically "I don't prefer it, need it, want it, etc."
Do you have any technical reasons to be against VW? If your V3 Provari had VW, and you could opt to not use it and keep switching your voltage manually, what are you missing out on? What are you not able to do that you can't already do today? Why should the majority of people who are begging for VW be left in the dark because the hardcore fanboys think its not needed because they can adjust their voltage manually and think that's good enough?
This VV vs VW debate has been going on for some time, and this thread asked what am I looking for in a V3 Provari, and the top of my list is VW, hence the passionate responses. I'd really prefer this not get into an argument or flame war... we should be able to debate and exchange thoughts and ideas without excessive drama.
If you like your boba's bounty at 10 watts, does that mean you vape all your juices at 10 watts? I think most people who own ProVari's rarely change their settings. If I change my settings twice a week, I'm being picky or switching between juices.
I wouldn't mind if ProVape came out with VW, but I'm not going to boycott them until they do.
If lack of variable wattage hurts their bottom line, they'll come out with it. Until then, it's not going to happen. Adding VW would add to their production costs, which would lead to raised prices which would lead to people complaining about the price (which they already do).
If newcomers are clueless with Ohms...........then stick with an evod............. vv and vw are both useless to them then in my opinion until they educate themselves about ohms, so not much of a defense there ^. They gotta know how to get there.