trying to quit nicotine vs. just trying to quit analogs?

[laughterhouse]

I'm using PVs as a healthier replacement for cigarettes at the moment but in the future I will stop using nicotine altogether. Since nicotine has been linked to increased risk for pancreatic cancer I can't justify using PVs forever even though I would like to.

[heather]

Originally Posted by Aaron!

I have a kid on the way, due in September, so realistically, I need to be vaping 0Nic by then. I just ordered some 12mg(Med) DIY amaretto e-juice and I'm very excited to make my first step towards 0Nic. I'm used to smoking 18mg.

Wish me luck?

Good Luck! My husband got me a lock box. It's a cash box with a combination on the front. I keep my liquids in there, and all the spare parts. I only have the e-cig I'm using out. I have it in an eye-glasses case that I put on top of the fridge when I'm not using it, which is not that often. LOL I pop the eye-glasses case in my purse when we leave the house, along with an extra batt. I think i'm going to order one of those pcc's

[Vocalek]

Originally Posted by laughterhouse

I'm using PVs as a healthier replacement for cigarettes at the moment but in the future I will stop using nicotine altogether. Since nicotine has been linked to increased risk for pancreatic cancer I can't justify using PVs forever even though I would like to.

1: BMC Cancer. 2009 Jul 29;9:256

The relation between smokeless tobacco and cancer in Northern Europe and North America. A commentary on differences between the conclusions reached by two recent reviews.

BACKGROUND: Smokeless tobacco is an alternative for smokers who want to quit but require nicotine. Reliable evidence on its effects is needed. Boffetta et al. and ourselves recently reviewed the evidence on cancer, based on Scandinavian and US studies. Boffetta et al. claimed a significant 60-80% increase for oropharyngeal, oesophageal and pancreatic cancer, and a non-significant 20% increase for lung cancer, data for other cancers being "too sparse". We found increases less than 15% for oesophageal, pancreatic and lung cancer, and a significant 36% increase for oropharyngeal cancer, which disappeared in recent studies. We found no association with stomach, bladder and all cancers combined, using data as extensive as that for oesophageal, pancreatic and lung cancer.
CONCLUSION: When conducting meta-analyses, all relevant data should be used, with clear rules governing the choice between alternative estimates. A systematic meta-analysis using pre-defined procedures and all relevant data gives a lower estimate of cancer risk from smokeless tobacco (probably 1-2% of that from smoking) than does the previous review by Boffetta et al.

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Now this is for smokeless tobacco. The nicotine in E-cigs should provide a risk-profile comparable to NRT products. I couldn't find anything on PubMed that implicated non-tobacco nicotine products in pancreatic cancer.

There is one study where they used injected nicotine on pregnant female rats, and found some damage to pancreatic cells in the offspring, but I don't think you can extrapolate from this study a significant increase in the risk for pancreatic cancer in humans who use non-injected nicotine.

From what I have read, being diagnosed with diabetes after age 50 significantly raises odds of pancreatic cancer. There is a non-significant increase in incidence among ever-smokers.

The following table gives the estimated numbers of new cases and deaths for each common cancer type:
Cancer TypeEstimated New CasesEstimated DeathsBladder70,98014,330Breast (Female - Male)192,370 - 1,91040,170 - 440 Colon and Rectal (Combined)146,97049,920Endometrial42,1607,780Kidne y (Renal Cell) Cancer 49,096 11,033 Leukemia (All)44,79021,870Lung (Including Bronchus)219,440159,390Melanoma68,7208,650Non-Hodgkin Lymphoma65,98019,500Pancreatic42,47035,240Prostate 192,28027,360Skin (Nonmelanoma)>1,000,000<1,000Thyroid37,2001,630
Common Cancer Types - National Cancer Institute

[kasija]

I try to quit analogs with PV. This is my first day without analogs and it is more difficult than I thought.
I hope that I will not give up.

Karmen

[Zukori]

I just wanted to quit smoking, there is a good chance I will just keep using my electronic. I myself may move to 0 nic and just keep vaping, because there are a lot of people I know that smoke, and this is really pleasant.

[MHR7331]

I just wanted to quit smoking. I'd begun to develop a really consistent smoker's hack, and it bugged the hell outta me. I hate chew, and damned if I was gonna spend a crapload of cash on gum (which I'd heard sucked). When I realized I could still go through the motions of smoking (that's half the fun) and get my nicotine fix without having to inhale smoke, I jumped at it. I view nicotine in the same light as caffeine... not necessarily good for you, but we're all en route to being wormfood anyway, so why not

[crand]

I'm not a doctor and I didn't even spend the night in a budge hotel... but... if I've learned anything after having Smoked/Quit/Smoked/Quit over the last 30 years its this. It's not about the cigarettes, it's about the nicotine.

Ask yourself the following question;
"If Cigarettes did not contain nicotine would you still smoke them"?

People who have successfully quit without hesitation always answer no. Those who smoke or are 'trying' to quit answer yes, or give you a long story.

I think that's why the patches and gum have such a poor success record because all they do is prolong the nicotine agony.

If you can quit the nic cold turkey for five to seven days and vape a 0 nic juice I think many would be quite successful over the long run.

[PatriciafromCO]

Didn't have a plan of anything when I tried vaping... Then it was to stay off analogs, then not feel the need to vap all day long.. Now that we there with not vaping all day long,, yes the goal is to not have the nic at all and not to vape at all... didn't like being or feeling like I tied to the contents of a box of analogs and I don't want to be tied to keeping a working PV around.. should see what a couple of days off of vaping is like..

[vapomike]

My goal was just too quit smoking. I like nicotine and it makes me feel good, lol. Nicotine isn't really that dangerous first off in moderation, it's just addicting as hell. Tobacco in it's raw form isn't even that dangerous, it is when you age it and burn it that makes it the killer that it is. I love holding off my nicotine fix as long as I can and just taking a long slow draw sometime double draw off of my 510 and feel that head rush. So even if I could quit I wouldn't lol.

[VinnieVapor]

Wow, I am really surprised at the number of people stating their love for nicotine and their hate of tobacco in the same post.

Following my PV purchase I smoked from 1 to 3 analogs per day for 9 days. Now I have been smokefree for 13 days and reducing from 18mg liquid to 12mg. It was not working only for the first days : I had to do 18mg during the day then 12mg at the evening.

Now it's 12 mg at all time and in a few days it will be 12mg day / 8mg evening.

I won't put any pressure on me, won't set any date and I reserve mysef the right to go back to higher nic if required but my goal is to go to 0 nic and became a social vaper.

I hated how I couldn't do anything without having cigarettes with me and I now I hate how I can't do anything without having my ecig with me. The only culprit is nicotine.