I need to quit, I'm so tired of it.

[Grandma Cas]

Hi yoshistr, I think you have to stop telling yourself you need to stop smoking. You’re addicted to nicotine, we all are on here & vaping is just another way to get our nicotine fix.

How we get that fix is down to us, we can carry on smoking tobacco with all the added rubbish that is killing us or we can vape with far less damage to ourselves.

What you have to remember is nicotine is far more addictive than many other drugs out there & tobacco was the only way we could get it (until now) so, it might help to do what I do.

Now, you need to know I’m 64 & have been a smoker for over 50 years... I tried all the quit methods over the years & nothing worked until I found vaping... ‘cause you see I still haven’t actually stopped... I just switched my nicotine delivery system.

I just tell myself vaping is a new way to get my nicotine fix & I can smoke if I want to... not because I have to. Think about it, there is a big difference between the words want & need. And I haven’t wanted to since March this year. I have to say the feeling of being in control is amazing.

[Giantfan]

I think he needs something more than just quitting smoking. More like some therapy and a prescription for an antidepressant.

You sound entirely too stressed. Smoking is not the source of your problems, but you are making it out to be.

[Dredbull]

I used to say "I smoke so the stupid can live!" not I say "I vape so I can live and torment the stupid people!"

I remember when the patches went OTC, 2 weeks of sheer nearly violent reactions to wanting a cig. I could not get this weird metal taste out of my mouth, never mind the gummy crap on my skin and ripping 2x2 patches of hair off my body.

I kind of thank the patch and the moment of insanity it led to a moment of clarity.
I was in the throws of madness for 14 days, was having a BAD day.
Gum forget it! BLECH!
Commit *shivers*
Zyban <-- ok I will say I LOVED this but not for the stop smoking effects, it is a mood elevator.
Nicatrol inhaler.. YEP I enjoyed sucking on that tube non stop and burning my throat doing it. NOT!
Some stop smoking herbal tea crap that make me crap, vomit and did nothing.
patch again and then quit trying to quit.

I still am not really trying to quit but if 1-2 a day is the stumbling block I get after my 2 week vapecation I am honestly fine with it.
I am just glad when that demon monkey starts flinging poo and causing a ruckus I can beat it into submission with my PV.

[Vocalek]

Originally Posted by yoshistr

I want to get a quit buddy here, so if anyone else wants to quit by tomorrow please reply or PM me, I want to quit at the same time as the other person and use each other for motivation to remain committed to quitting. I would prefer someone who is also not using e-cigs but don't mind as long as they don't smoke any analogs and have time everyday to let me know how their day went by quitting, etc. If you are interested please let me know, also if tomorrow is too soon you can set a date this week and I will happily quit with you.

I need to quit for good, the last time I managed to quit for a few months with the e-cig but I never want to put any chemicals in my body anymore, I think we all deserve to be happy without nicotine.

If you want to become nicotine abstinent, you can get a lot of support from some of the smoking cessation forums. The folks at QuitSmokingMessageBoard.com &bull; Index page are rampantly anti-nicotine and do provide a monitored "SOS" board for those who feel they are about to "slip."

If your key issue is to quit smoking tobacco cigarettes, we can help you here. Most of us here tried for decades to give up nicotine, but we kept getting sick. This is why we find e-cigarettes such a miracle. We have (finally!) stopped smoking tobacco, but not have not been forced to pay for our physical health by sacrificing our cognitive and emotional health.

Maybe we all "deserve" to be happy without nicotine, but if your neurotransmitters are out of whack, that isn't likely to happen. These are the kinds of problems that aren't cured. They are kept under control with one type or another of medication.

If they are only out of whack in one way -- say that you have "endogenous depression" -- then you might be able to survive without nicotine if your depression is adequately controlled by antidepresssant medication. It has worked for some people. But 2 out of 3 people taking an antidepressant still have some symptoms of depression.

If you have multiple neurotransmitter problems -- say depression and/or anxiety plus attention deficits -- then you are looking at treating each condition with separate prescription meds, many of which carry a lot more side effects than nicotine delivered cleanly (without the tobacco smoke junk).

Nicotine is not "evil." Nicotine, per se, is relatively benign -- not much worse than caffeine. Personally I greatly prefer nicotine to taking Ritilin and anti-anxiety meds.

If you were able to quit smoking tobacco using the e-cigarette before, you likely can do it again. If you need help with that, let us know.

If you like, check my blog: The Truth About Nicotine

[whistlrr]

Don't accidentaly do a 'psyche' on yourself. Human beings are funny things, we're naturally sort of 'oppositional' (even to ourselves!)

I'll give you two other examples/analogies of what I think you might be accidentally doing to yourself:

Ever had to be up and alert early in the morning for something really super important and knew you had to sleep, knew it was critical that you got good sleep the night before, but there you are, laying with your eyes nearly bulged open, wide awake, going "oh my god I'm awake oh crap I NEED to SLEEP I need to be sleeping now but I' wide freaking AWAKE oh man oh man!"?

or if I said to you right now: don't think about your tongue, whatever you do, do not think about your tongue and how it feels in your mouth right now (I would suppose on reading this that finding a sudden awareness of how your tongue feels in your mouth is exactly what you did)

Maybe if you just tell yourself it doesn't matter if you smoke or not and just mix in e-cigs and/or snus (snus is a pretty amazing thing, you should check it out too I think), just really relax and let yourself wander and explore, take the pressure off yourself

incidentally if you ever get into that "I need to be sleeping but I'm not oh holy crap mother of god WHY am I still AWAKE?!" thing ever again, you can remind yourself that at least laying down resting is good for you and is nearly as good as sleeping.

[frankie1]

THAT is an excellent point whistlrr.....wonder if that is why I am having such a problem...LOL

[phillyd]

Originally Posted by whistlrr

Don't accidentaly do a 'psyche' on yourself. Human beings are funny things, we're naturally sort of 'oppositional' (even to ourselves!)

I'll give you two other examples/analogies of what I think you might be accidentally doing to yourself:

Ever had to be up and alert early in the morning for something really super important and knew you had to sleep, knew it was critical that you got good sleep the night before, but there you are, laying with your eyes nearly bulged open, wide awake, going "oh my god I'm awake oh crap I NEED to SLEEP I need to be sleeping now but I' wide freaking AWAKE oh man oh man!"?

or if I said to you right now: don't think about your tongue, whatever you do, do not think about your tongue and how it feels in your mouth right now (I would suppose on reading this that finding a sudden awareness of how your tongue feels in your mouth is exactly what you did)

Maybe if you just tell yourself it doesn't matter if you smoke or not and just mix in e-cigs and/or snus (snus is a pretty amazing thing, you should check it out too I think), just really relax and let yourself wander and explore, take the pressure off yourself

incidentally if you ever get into that "I need to be sleeping but I'm not oh holy crap mother of god WHY am I still AWAKE?!" thing ever again, you can remind yourself that at least laying down resting is good for you and is nearly as good as sleeping.

Oh my God!!!! Please foregive me for laughing my a$$ off but you just described me to a T. I do agree with you 100%. If you think too much and obsess over 1 thing over and over you will send yourself into a panic attack. Its not worth beating yourself up over.

I've come to the conclusion that coffee and Vaping my but off are the culprits of my insomnia so I will eventually find a balance and everything will be ok.MOST important though is the fact that no matter what I am not going to pick up a cigarette.
I have been smoke free for just 11 days now and I feel great about myself and that self loathing depression has gone away because I finally broke out of that prison of 27yrs. I dont ever want to look back.

I was so apprehensive about letting go of smokes and just cut down the first month I had my E-cig. Finally the first day of Nov. I decided screw it I'm not going to buy anymore smokes and that was that. I didnt even plan on quitting that day. I just new that I had to trust in this e-cig sooner or later so I;m glad I did.

It hasnt been bad at all. Not what I expected. I thought I was going to get all of the typacle withdrawals but nothing came.

Its scary that it is so easy for me. Just believe it will work and it will
Good Luck Phil