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    Default Best Safe Safest Wick Wicks Silica vs or SS Stainless Steel vs Cotton vs Hemp vs Bamboo vs Ceramic vs anything else

    Trying to make a simple and conclusive guide comparing the pros and cons of each.
    The Safe Wicking Material thread's like 500 pages. Threads specific to each type go a lot more into deatail, but I hope to make a simple sort of noob guide. The Wick Summary thread as a result of the 500 page thread isn't as good as it should be.

    I'm probably wrong about some of this so correct me if I'm wrong or just say it should be disregarded and write your own and I'll edit mine out. This might just be an example:

    Silica
    Least safe.
    Wicks faster than everything else.
    Needs to be burnt with a lighter/torch for few seconds before use to remove chemicals.
    Doesn't add unwanted taste.
    Not good as a bottom coil atty extra 'flavor wick' that isn't connected to anything and just sits on the coil wick because the strands eventually come undone and the flavor wick comes out of the coil head causing flooding and/or less juicy hits.

    SS
    Suposidly the safest material; however there's this thread with lab tests that may show SS to be less safe than currently thought to be. The results aren't in yet though: Stainless Steel mesh, Oxide discussion.
    Makes sense to me that a plant-based wick like cotton, hemp, or bamboo would be the safest.
    Ties with hemp in that it wicks slightly faster than all the rest except for silica being the fastest and cotton being the slowest.
    Wick can be re-used and last very long.
    Needs to be pre-oxidized with a blow torch to red hot numerous times before using and care is needed when wrapping coils to not create shorts or hot spots.
    Doesn't add unwanted taste.

    Cotton
    Is on the safer side of the spectrum along with hemp and bamboo. I don't know which is the safest of those. Whatever you buy, make sure it has zero addatives and organic is a plus. Maybe contact the manufacturer with a trick question as if you hope for them to tell you that it has addatives so they're less likely to lie or give an answer that's not fully researched. Something like: "I want to know the complete chemistry of this product to see if it has addatives that will help it hold up better with proiducts I'm using."
    These filters linked probably have nothing at all added to them. I double checked with the manufacturer without a trick question, but got no reply. RAW Rolling Papers
    Should be boiled a few times before using to break up the fibers to make it wick better and also to remove any pesticide or fertelizer traces even if it's organic. Between boils and after the final boil, put the pot under slow running cold water because the addatives suposidly rise to the top and will flow out of the pot so each boil's water gets cleaner and little to nothing's re-collected when the cotton's finally pulled from the pot.
    Cotton soaks and holds the most juice so it gives the biggest juciest hit, but it wicks the slowest and is prone to dry hits and burns the easiest. If it burns you'll always get a burnt taste. It needs about an hour soaking in juice before vaping.

    Hemp
    Same thing I wrote about cotton for safety, boiling, and finding out if it has zero addatives.
    The manufacturer told me there's nothing whatsoever added to these hemps that say undyed and unwaxed: Organic Hemp Twines
    100% Hemp Braided Cords Organic European
    The 12 strand type is said to wick the best.
    Possibly gives the most unwanted taste.
    Hardest to burn besides bamboo.
    Ties with SS in that it wicks slightly faster than all the rest except for silica being the fastest and cotton being the slowest.
    Doesn't give as juice of a hit as cotton, but juicier than bamboo.


    Bamboo
    Same thing I wrote about cotton for safety, boiling, and finding out if it has zero addatives.
    Hardest to burn and doesn't give as much of an unwanted taste as hemp.
    Wicks the slowest besides cotton.
    Gives the least juicy hit



    Edit: I forgot Ceramic, which wicks the slowest unless it's very porous, which then is very difficult to work with without crumbling when carving out a small piece. If you can even find that.
    One of the safest materials.
    lasts long if boiled in vodka or something to unclog it.
    gives no unwanted taste and won't burn for burnt taste
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    Looks like you have most everything covered and in good detail. Cant comment on some because ive not tried them all. Looking forward to trying the hemp wicks.
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    That's quite a bizarre title you used there!
    One thing to amend: SS mesh does not have to be oxidized. I'm vaping an non-oxidized wick right now! It only requires a more precise method of building the wick and coil.

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    I made the title like that so it can be Googled easier and hopefully help others.

    I thought you always haveo oxidize SS unless you do the trick of putting rolling paper around it first, then burn the paper with the coil, which still oxidizes it. Or wrap the coils so they don't touch the SS which seems too delicate.
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    I am also interested in trying hemp wicks.
    Have yet to do any research on them.

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    Add references? The most commonly used wick material is the least safe?

    For ceramic, I haven't heard of anyone using actual ceramic (but it could just be that I haven't heard of it). There is ceramic wick, it looks almost the same as silica wick. The stuff that I've heard is the best (X-25 or something like that) is an export controlled item so only those in the US can buy it (and it would be illegal for them to ship it elsewhere). It does need to be burned first (apparently a kiln works best). I've had a few strands, it works pretty well but is thicker than most wicks so doesn't fit in all rebuildables.


    Above is probably a lie... mmm, more flavours!

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    No referances, mostly what I gather from the forum. I'd love for someone to write it better. I said it might be an example.

    There are some threads of people cutting off small pieces from ceramic air diffusers for fish tanks and other ceramic things to make wicks.
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    There's a lot left out there, such as some of the flammable wicks giving off toxins as they almost surely do when they burn (and they always seem to, at least a little). There's just not enough hard data to call any of these safer than any other.

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    Quote Originally Posted by veganvap View Post
    I made the title like that so it can be Googled easier and hopefully help others.

    I thought you always had to oxidize SS unless maybe you do the trick of putting rolling paper around it first, wrap the coil around the paper, then burn the paper with the coil, which basically oxidizes it. Or wrap the coils so they don't touch the SS which seems too delicate.
    I don't use rolling paper, my wick goes in completely unoxidized. Oxidizing it allows you to have a sloppy coil and have it still work. If your wick is evenly cylindrical and your coil is evenly wrapped it doesn't short. You just have to be precise (and yes, my coil touches the wick).

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    i've got and old wool sweater that doesn't fit, can i use that?

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