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    I'm on the night shift ...3 days on...3 off...would like a juice that promotes sleep

    e-Liquid Valerian Root Natural relaxant and sleep aid 30ml bottle.

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    Nhaler has "sleepytime green tea":

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    Real valerian root tastes like old dirty socks.

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    Just make sure it's low in nicotine. High doses of nicotine can cause sleep problems

    Probably best off with something else, though.. Tylenol PM maybe?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mctriple View Post
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    Probably best off with something else, though.. Tylenol PM maybe?
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    Quote Originally Posted by deemkooo View Post
    Real valerian root tastes like old dirty socks.
    I'm frightened to ask how you know how old dirty socks taste... in all seriousness though, deemkooo is absolutely right, real valerian root(in quantities to have an effect) would be a very nasty smelling and tasting liquid. I also have to echo mctriple's comment and tell you to make sure that whatever you vape, it's much lower nicotine than your normal, if not zero nic. I would suggest any type of flavor that you personally find comforting. Vanilla has always worked pretty well for me as a late night vape.

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    Don't bother with paying for Tylenol PM. The "PM" in Tylenol PM is just an antihistamine -- it's diphenhydramine HCl, exact same drug as Benadryl, so each capsule is the same as taking 1 (25mg) Benadryl + 1 (500mg) Tylenol...and unless you're in pain, you don't need the Tylenol part. (Nyquil, for all y'all green liquid junkies out there, also contains an antihistamine for the nighttime sedative part -- doxylamine succinate.)
    Best option in lieu of Tylenol PM? Whatever store-brand generic "sleep aid" or "antihistamine" formulation contains doxylamine or diphenhydramine. Cheaper, and just as effective.

    Though, I like melatonin best to get to sleep. No hangover feeling like you can get with antihistamines or other over-the-counter formulations.

    If your shift schedule is that chaotic (3 nights on, 3 off), it can take a real toll on your internal circadian rhythms. I've known medical residents who use things like light-blocking curtains or full-spectrum (SAD) lamps in their effort to re-set their clocks quickly -- anything that can fool your body temporarily into "day" or "night" mode.

    Quote Originally Posted by deemkooo View Post
    Real valerian root tastes like old dirty socks.
    Yeah, lol.
    I'd question whether the active compounds in valerian are in high enough concentration in any of these liquids to be effective (or vapeable); we just don't know. Placebo effects can be powerful, though... I just wouldn't rely on an eliquid to help you sleep. There's no data or knowledge on delivery of nonnicotine drugs (and herbs are drugs too) through the PV atomizers.

    You can get valerian capsules (don't stick your nose in the bottle! ). They're pretty safe as far as unregulated remedies go; but if you're taking other medications, it's always advisable to ask your doctor before trying any herbal or over-the-counter remedies.

    I agree that lower nic is a good idea. (I get bad insomnia if I keep my nic levels at night the same as they were during the day.) The flavors I like in low-nic are different than those I like at higher-nic, so you might find you have to experiment around.
    Last edited by Madame Psychosis; 03-17-2010 at 02:00 AM. Reason: added a few things on second thought

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    does valerian vape? ive been using valerian daily for a bit to help ease me off of the phenibut train ( horrible W/Ds from that stuff btw, dont think "oh its a dietary supplement, ill be fine ) and it does work pretty well to calm any GABAergic W/D related distresses to your CNS. it for sure will knock u the heck out!! its best to use herbs/supps that only affect GABA receptors (valerian/kava are great examples) if you are looking for sleep, because if they have any dopamine agonism/reuptake inhibition effects there will be what is called a "dopamine rebound" effect, where you will wake up after like 3 hours of sleep,bright eyed and bushy tailed, but still obviously wrecked physically from lack of sleep....

    PS valerian is NASTY tasting. if that transfers over into the vape.....
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    Ugh.. you are so much better off buying an herbal supplement like Valerian root and then something called 5HTP. 5HTP helps your body produce tryptophan, like the effect you get from eating a big turkey dinner. Valerian root helps to make you feel sleepy. I would strongly recommend against trying to vape the stuff, it smells HORRIBLE. Really. it does. It really does smell like old dirty socks. I can't imagine it would taste all that great. You're better off spending your money on something you might actually use.

    I take it every night because I have a hard time getting my mind to quiet down (and I have an insomniac partner who stays up way later than I do, so it benefits me to get to sleep before he does).

    Also, because you work swing shift you might want to read up on the use of melatonin.
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    RE: melatonin.... i will use it occasionally, but only if im not in an odd mood. if i take it when im in an odd mood, i tend to have wild intense out of body experiences when im on the threshold between waking and sleeping...

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