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mistake · 08-19-2009, 09:16 PM

I have a few new batteries that i have to draw REALLY HARD on to get any vapor. It hurts my chest to draw so hard. Is there a way to fix this, or do I have to toss them out?

Jim Davis · 08-21-2009, 01:15 AM

The 4081 has a harder draw than some of the others. I would suggest drawing a mouthful and then gently inhale.

If you plan on going to an easier draw, the 510 is about the same size and draws easily, but don't throw out your 4081. Clean it up, and put it away some place. Some day you may get stuck and need to use it for a back-up.

mistake · 08-21-2009, 01:43 AM

Thanks Jim, but I don't think that's my problem... I usually vape by drawing a mouthful and then gently inhaling. Out of the 5 batts I have about 2 of them are just fighting me. The others range from my original Njoy's that draw smooth and easy, to one heaven gifts battery that is a little tough but not too hard, to the 2 that I have (heavens gifts again) that just won't give without a fight... I was hoping there was a way to "loosen" the switch inside to fix this. I just bought a janty Stick, and I would never get rid of my 4081's, I love them... well the good batteries anyways... the original atomizer is still kicking too.

Anyone have a good way to loosen the switch?
I'm about ready to throw it very hard on the ground to see what happens...

Zlo5 · 08-21-2009, 02:17 AM

I have a Bloog which I think is a different model (E9/V9/Longtotem/Smoke51 ?), but occasionally my batteries will not draw well at all after a lot of use. This has seemed to resolve it--

-Take a safety pin and dip it in rubbing alchohol
-Use it to clean the battery air holes
-[Not sure how to describe clearly]--Use it vertically to clean the entire circumference of the inside where the air hole leads to.

Usually a little gunk comes out and it vapes easier.

Shadowdr · 08-22-2009, 06:52 AM

Also, batteries are like the attys in that they have a draw hole or holes in the plastic tip. The Njoy's have two and thus have an easier draw then others that have only one(Hint, you may want to fix those that don't). It took me a while to figure that one out, just like the best attys have a date stamped on the center pole. You should really look into doing a box mod, double sized carts and an all day battery with a manual switch make the 4081 as good as an e-cigg gets.

undyingguitarist · 08-22-2009, 07:11 AM

good luck man, it could possibly be that your batteries are getting weak, you dont have enough fluid in your cart, or you atomizer is clogged or shot

pigspleen · 08-24-2009, 02:06 AM

i plug both holes for a quick second and the open em up and its pretty good...plugging both just helps start it way easier

waveho · 08-31-2009, 02:29 AM

I've experienced that some e-liquids--the really dark syrupy stuff like the maple from Vermont Vapors--tend to gunk up attys and batteries after prolonged use. You may have used some really "dark" stuff with some attys and batteries and they got more gunked than usual. Clean the attys and with some clear alcohol and carefully clean the battery holes as described too. Blowing through the "battery end" of the atty forcefully, into a paper towel, will discharge a good amount of lingering liquid too. I had been soaking my attys in vodka but I've found that after drying they leave a lingering foul taste for a bit before burning off. Probably some ethyl alcohol would be better and I'm going to try that next. Soaking in water and then letting completely dry will help too.

override · 09-12-2009, 03:06 PM

Hello all,

Im new to E-Cigs and have been doing some research, I want one that looks and feels like a analog, and want an auto aswell. Upon research and people on here giving me advice, I am told by everyone to get the JOYe510 model, or DES103 or M401. I personally think I would like to go with the RN4081 after seeing this video!

Maybe this will help many of you draw easier....He is either really good or has discovered a useful bit of information. Hope it helps:

YouTube - Electronic Cigarette super Mini, Hints On Getting More Vapour

Jim Davis · 09-12-2009, 11:49 PM

override;
The DES103 and RN4081 are interchangeable, with only one difference.
If you use RN4081 attys, you must use RN4081 Carts.
If you use DSE103 attys, you must use the DSE103 Carts.

The attys and batts have the same connection, but the cart end diameter of the attys are different, so the carts are not interchangeable.

Actually, I've had better luck with the DSE103 battery on my RN4081 attys.

08-19-2009, 09:16 PM	#1
mistake Full Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Astoria, New York Posts: 44	Hard to draw I have a few new batteries that i have to draw REALLY HARD on to get any vapor. It hurts my chest to draw so hard. Is there a way to fix this, or do I have to toss them out? __________________

08-21-2009, 01:15 AM	#2
Jim Davis Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston, Texas / USA Posts: 3,908 Tweet this post!	The 4081 has a harder draw than some of the others. I would suggest drawing a mouthful and then gently inhale. If you plan on going to an easier draw, the 510 is about the same size and draws easily, but don't throw out your 4081. Clean it up, and put it away some place. Some day you may get stuck and need to use it for a back-up. __________________

08-21-2009, 01:43 AM	#3
mistake Full Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Astoria, New York Posts: 44	Thanks Jim, but I don't think that's my problem... I usually vape by drawing a mouthful and then gently inhaling. Out of the 5 batts I have about 2 of them are just fighting me. The others range from my original Njoy's that draw smooth and easy, to one heaven gifts battery that is a little tough but not too hard, to the 2 that I have (heavens gifts again) that just won't give without a fight... I was hoping there was a way to "loosen" the switch inside to fix this. I just bought a janty Stick, and I would never get rid of my 4081's, I love them... well the good batteries anyways... the original atomizer is still kicking too. Anyone have a good way to loosen the switch? I'm about ready to throw it very hard on the ground to see what happens... __________________

08-22-2009, 06:52 AM	#5
Shadowdr Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Nashville Tn. Posts: 295	Also, batteries are like the attys in that they have a draw hole or holes in the plastic tip. The Njoy's have two and thus have an easier draw then others that have only one(Hint, you may want to fix those that don't). It took me a while to figure that one out, just like the best attys have a date stamped on the center pole. You should really look into doing a box mod, double sized carts and an all day battery with a manual switch make the 4081 as good as an e-cigg gets. __________________

09-12-2009, 11:49 PM	#10
Jim Davis Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston, Texas / USA Posts: 3,908 Tweet this post!	override; The DES103 and RN4081 are interchangeable, with only one difference. If you use RN4081 attys, you must use RN4081 Carts. If you use DSE103 attys, you must use the DSE103 Carts. The attys and batts have the same connection, but the cart end diameter of the attys are different, so the carts are not interchangeable. Actually, I've had better luck with the DSE103 battery on my RN4081 attys. __________________

08-21-2009, 02:17 AM	#4
Zlo5 Full Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Sarasota, FL Posts: 20 Tweet this post!	I have a Bloog which I think is a different model (E9/V9/Longtotem/Smoke51 ?), but occasionally my batteries will not draw well at all after a lot of use. This has seemed to resolve it-- -Take a safety pin and dip it in rubbing alchohol -Use it to clean the battery air holes -[Not sure how to describe clearly]--Use it vertically to clean the entire circumference of the inside where the air hole leads to. Usually a little gunk comes out and it vapes easier.

08-22-2009, 07:11 AM	#6
undyingguitarist Full Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 111	good luck man, it could possibly be that your batteries are getting weak, you dont have enough fluid in your cart, or you atomizer is clogged or shot

08-24-2009, 02:06 AM	#7
pigspleen Full Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Saskatchewan Posts: 54	i plug both holes for a quick second and the open em up and its pretty good...plugging both just helps start it way easier

08-31-2009, 02:29 AM	#8
waveho Full Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 90	I've experienced that some e-liquids--the really dark syrupy stuff like the maple from Vermont Vapors--tend to gunk up attys and batteries after prolonged use. You may have used some really "dark" stuff with some attys and batteries and they got more gunked than usual. Clean the attys and with some clear alcohol and carefully clean the battery holes as described too. Blowing through the "battery end" of the atty forcefully, into a paper towel, will discharge a good amount of lingering liquid too. I had been soaking my attys in vodka but I've found that after drying they leave a lingering foul taste for a bit before burning off. Probably some ethyl alcohol would be better and I'm going to try that next. Soaking in water and then letting completely dry will help too.

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