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tijerin · 07-04-2009, 07:59 PM

OK, next noob question... Im a heavy smoker. I would need a high nicotine content and heavy smoke for this to work for me.. what liquid is the best for me? Totally Wicked 36mg? Any help, thanks

Jim Davis · 07-04-2009, 08:16 PM

I smoked 2 packs a day for 45+ years. I don't drip myself. I get good hits on my 4081 as is. Here's the scoop on the juice;

Since all levels of nicotine in juice are the same price, it pays to get the highest and cut it to your desired level. You get more for less money.

I getting a good hit from 18mg juice. I buy 36mg. and cut it in half.

So, I'm going to assume you'll ask me next about cutting it, so here goes.

I cut my 36mg - 50 / 50 with VG. VG is fairly thick, and will have a sweet taste.

VG = Vegetable Glycerin;
You can buy VG at any CVS Pharmacy or Walmart, in the pharmacy section. You'll find it in the skin care section, usually near the bottom shelf. CVS and Walmart each have their own store brand. The bottles will say Pure Glycerin USP. The USP means food grade. I wouldn't use anything that does not have USP on it. 4 or 5 bucks for a good size bottle.

I bought a syringe from CVS too. (No needle on it.) I use it to measure the juice so I can get a good 50 / 50 mixture.

You may try different mixture %'s. I recommend you mix in a very small amount and try it before you mix a full bottle. I ended up throwing away a 30ml bottle because I messed it up.

Good luck;
jd
More questions? Don't hesitate to ask.

wv2win · 07-04-2009, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim Davis

I smoked 2 packs a day for 45+ years. I don't drip myself. I get good hits on my 4081 as is. Here's the scoop on the juice;

Since all levels of nicotine in juice are the same price, it pays to get the highest and cut it to your desired level. You get more for less money.

I getting a good hit from 18mg juice. I buy 36mg. and cut it in half.

So, I'm going to assume you'll ask me next about cutting it, so here goes.

I cut my 36mg - 50 / 50 with VG. VG is fairly thick, and will have a sweet taste.

VG = Vegetable Glycerin;
You can buy VG at any CVS Pharmacy or Walmart, in the pharmacy section. You'll find it in the skin care section, usually near the bottom shelf. CVS and Walmart each have their own store brand. The bottles will say Pure Glycerin USP. The USP means food grade. I wouldn't use anything that does not have USP on it. 4 or 5 bucks for a good size bottle.

I bought a syringe from CVS too. (No needle on it.) I use it to measure the juice so I can get a good 50 / 50 mixture.

You may try different mixture %'s. I recommend you mix in a very small amount and try it before you mix a full bottle. I ended up throwing away a 30ml bottle because I messed it up.

Good luck;
jd
More questions? Don't hesitate to ask.

Along with Jim's suggestion, another option is to get the flavor you like in 36mg and a lower level such as 11mg. Mix the two and you get 24 mg (which is what I use) and this way you don't reduce the flavor of the liquid as you will cutting with VG.

tijerin · 07-04-2009, 08:37 PM

Great, thanks. What about a liquid that produces heavy smoke? (or is that based on the type of e-cg?) I'm new to this and have the smoke everywhere gold. I dont want to spend more monet for a new e-cig YET, I need to try this out for a bit, first. Just trying to give it it's fair shake prior to upgrading etc.

Jim Davis · 07-04-2009, 08:53 PM

That's my main concern here. You get happy with what you have, and then you do the research, and advance upward as you see fit.

The VG will add the vapor.
Now, you can also go to Tractor Supply, and buy PG. PG = Propylene Glycol. PG is another great vapor producer. It's much thinner than the VG, and a minority of people have an allergy to it.

I prefer the VG myself. I'm fond of the taste of the unflavored juice with 50% PG. You'll have to experiment, and see what's best for you.

Linthorn · 07-05-2009, 06:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tijerin

Great, thanks. What about a liquid that produces heavy smoke? (or is that based on the type of e-cg?) I'm new to this and have the smoke everywhere gold. I dont want to spend more monet for a new e-cig YET, I need to try this out for a bit, first. Just trying to give it it's fair shake prior to upgrading etc.

If you add some VG to Just about any e-liquid you will get lots of vapor with the SE Gold.

Frostmonkey · 10-31-2009, 07:16 PM

So I received my SE gold just a few days ago and must say I'm very disappointed with it's out-of-box performance. I have yet to get a single decent hit from the thing with the cats that come with it. I obviously read through this entire thread and see that a combination of dripping, mixing VG or PG and e-liquid until you get vapor, and It seems popping the end cap off the stock carts has helped a lot of people as well. I have not yet ordered any e-liquid therefore I also have not dripped. And when I popped the end cap off my stock carts to try that method I noticed the reservoir was filled with liquid. I figured if I wiped the liquid away I would just be diminishing the life of the cart so I replaced the cap and gave up.

So these are my questions. First, what brand of e-liquid should I buy to get the best vapor (and also a decent throat hit) with my SE RN4081. Second, although I will eventually be dripping, I often will be at work or on the road and using carts for convenience. So should I pop the cap, wipe away whatever fluid is there and put it in my pocket?

IANAN · 11-02-2009, 03:18 AM

Make sure you aren't tipping the e-cig up while you smoke it (it should be tipped either slightly down or held parallel to the ground- Eg; in a horizontal position). With the SE gold I have found you need to cover the two holes on the side and give the cig about a 1 second primer draw and then cover one of the holes with my thumb to get a decent amount of vapor.

Heaven-gifts is a good place to buy stuff from(Cheap prices, quick shipping, good customer service), they are in China though... and that means 8-15 days to get your stuff and customs might decide to hold your e-liquid. Shipping from China also can also run 12-25 bucks per shipment.

Look at the US Supplier thread for... well for Stateside suppliers.

Besides e-liquid you may want to pick up a DSE 103 Bat or another RN4081 bat... as I have found that most of the problems I had with my SE Gold go away with an NJoy or DSE 103 bat.

07-04-2009, 08:16 PM	#102
Jim Davis Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston, Texas / USA Posts: 3,902 Tweet this post!	I smoked 2 packs a day for 45+ years. I don't drip myself. I get good hits on my 4081 as is. Here's the scoop on the juice; Since all levels of nicotine in juice are the same price, it pays to get the highest and cut it to your desired level. You get more for less money. I getting a good hit from 18mg juice. I buy 36mg. and cut it in half. So, I'm going to assume you'll ask me next about cutting it, so here goes. I cut my 36mg - 50 / 50 with VG. VG is fairly thick, and will have a sweet taste. VG = Vegetable Glycerin; You can buy VG at any CVS Pharmacy or Walmart, in the pharmacy section. You'll find it in the skin care section, usually near the bottom shelf. CVS and Walmart each have their own store brand. The bottles will say Pure Glycerin USP. The USP means food grade. I wouldn't use anything that does not have USP on it. 4 or 5 bucks for a good size bottle. I bought a syringe from CVS too. (No needle on it.) I use it to measure the juice so I can get a good 50 / 50 mixture. You may try different mixture %'s. I recommend you mix in a very small amount and try it before you mix a full bottle. I ended up throwing away a 30ml bottle because I messed it up. Good luck; jd More questions? Don't hesitate to ask. __________________

07-04-2009, 08:53 PM	#105
Jim Davis Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Houston, Texas / USA Posts: 3,902 Tweet this post!	That's my main concern here. You get happy with what you have, and then you do the research, and advance upward as you see fit. The VG will add the vapor. Now, you can also go to Tractor Supply, and buy PG. PG = Propylene Glycol. PG is another great vapor producer. It's much thinner than the VG, and a minority of people have an allergy to it. I prefer the VG myself. I'm fond of the taste of the unflavored juice with 50% PG. You'll have to experiment, and see what's best for you. __________________

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07-04-2009, 07:59 PM	#101
tijerin Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: California, USA Posts: 5	OK, next noob question... Im a heavy smoker. I would need a high nicotine content and heavy smoke for this to work for me.. what liquid is the best for me? Totally Wicked 36mg? Any help, thanks

07-04-2009, 08:37 PM	#104
tijerin Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: California, USA Posts: 5	Great, thanks. What about a liquid that produces heavy smoke? (or is that based on the type of e-cg?) I'm new to this and have the smoke everywhere gold. I dont want to spend more monet for a new e-cig YET, I need to try this out for a bit, first. Just trying to give it it's fair shake prior to upgrading etc.

10-31-2009, 07:16 PM	#107
Frostmonkey Full Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Joliet, IL Posts: 40 Tweet this post!	So I received my SE gold just a few days ago and must say I'm very disappointed with it's out-of-box performance. I have yet to get a single decent hit from the thing with the cats that come with it. I obviously read through this entire thread and see that a combination of dripping, mixing VG or PG and e-liquid until you get vapor, and It seems popping the end cap off the stock carts has helped a lot of people as well. I have not yet ordered any e-liquid therefore I also have not dripped. And when I popped the end cap off my stock carts to try that method I noticed the reservoir was filled with liquid. I figured if I wiped the liquid away I would just be diminishing the life of the cart so I replaced the cap and gave up. So these are my questions. First, what brand of e-liquid should I buy to get the best vapor (and also a decent throat hit) with my SE RN4081. Second, although I will eventually be dripping, I often will be at work or on the road and using carts for convenience. So should I pop the cap, wipe away whatever fluid is there and put it in my pocket?

11-02-2009, 03:18 AM	#108
IANAN Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 164	Make sure you aren't tipping the e-cig up while you smoke it (it should be tipped either slightly down or held parallel to the ground- Eg; in a horizontal position). With the SE gold I have found you need to cover the two holes on the side and give the cig about a 1 second primer draw and then cover one of the holes with my thumb to get a decent amount of vapor. Heaven-gifts is a good place to buy stuff from(Cheap prices, quick shipping, good customer service), they are in China though... and that means 8-15 days to get your stuff and customs might decide to hold your e-liquid. Shipping from China also can also run 12-25 bucks per shipment. Look at the US Supplier thread for... well for Stateside suppliers. Besides e-liquid you may want to pick up a DSE 103 Bat or another RN4081 bat... as I have found that most of the problems I had with my SE Gold go away with an NJoy or DSE 103 bat.