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[Spikey]

Sorry to intrude - Am I the ONLY one that has a problem with the people saying they review these products, and if they are awful they let the supplier decide if they should post a bad review or send it back? I don't find that unbiased reviewing at all. I have no quams with any of the people doing reviews (I'm a review whore actually), but I am a little put off by this. I think you guys should review each and every product you get and let us know if it sucks!

I am gonna use Spikey for this example as she is a girl and although she could probably kick my @ss I feel as though I would have a better chance against her as opposed to igetcha or Terra.

So lets say Spikey gets a 4081 from Cash to review - Spikey does her thing (and does it well I might add). She decides "you know this thing really sucks". She contacts Steve and says "hey dude - I was about to do this reveiw for your 4081, but this thing sucks". Steve says to Spikey shhhh don't tell anyone send it back to me. Spikey sends it back. A day or two later I'm drunk and stumbling around on Steve's site and think hell I own about every other thing this guys has, I think I'll have a go at this 4081. Now I have just bought a crappy product that had I known Spikey's opinion of I probably wouldn't have bought it. Does this make sense to anyone? (damn I'm rambling again).

On a side note - I own a pilot and a evo. In my opinion these cigs are like night and day (the wife says so too). With the evo I am constantly hitting the cutoff? I have to wait atleast 2 minutes b4 I can even attempt to take another drag. Is this normal? With the pilot I just smoke. I have never had any issues with a cutoff (except with loud music, car windows,ect.). Also, the hit I get from the pilot atomizer is definatley different than the evo. Sorry, just my honest opinion.

Oh - I did buy the evo off of a member of the forums. It was not from intellicig (but was in their box, ect). Maybe it was a older version?

tp- I totally agree that it is more fair to warn people about a bad product... and if I had ever gotten a "bad" product that was just crappy or non-usable.. I would certainly warn the public. Even if I sent an item back without reviewing it.. that would not stop me from posting my opinions of it when I was asked about (I do this in the newbies section pretty often when someone asks about a device) but I would not go out of my way to post a video review that was negative.. because as I found out on my last review... sometimes the reviewer just gets the bad one of the batch.

I can post over 70 ECF members, personal emails, adresss', phone#
I can even post google map links so you can see their house

It's not my place to do so

I think teraphon will admit now it wasn't his place to do so either

If parked was ripping people off I could understand posting it, but for right now it's about his questionable honesty, I don't mind the accusations but he hasn't done anything to have his personal info posted on this thread

I know if someone did it to me I would be supa mad

I paid off Terr to take down Parked's info (whch I hope he actually did... I can't rem what page it was on lol!) even though I think Parked was wrong and shady... I don't think his business info should be shared for all to see.. especially considering how angry everyone was a half hour ago lol!). Just not right. Terr got paid well tho lol

All good Karma dude... Karma Cops will come to getcha if u don't watch out

Love ya Terr! You the best!

[radiokaos]

This thread is awesome....

Its like watching a bunch of drama queens.

Lets be honest most of the e cigs are pretty much the same with only a couple of manufactures overseas in China.

Seeing a review on the Janty, EVO, 401, 801, 901, 4081, etc makes no difference to me. Its up to the user to decide if that the e cig they want to vape with. Yes video helps but first hand knowledge is key.

Maybe I should start a rental program and you can rent the e cig of your choice to decide which one is best for you.

I"m going to pour myself a nice drink and sit back and enjoy two topped off 4081 carts which work great for me while getting my dose of the forums.

I can see how some of the suppliers take this matter seriously since the profits on these goods have anywhere from 40%-70% margins.

[Terraphon]

I can post over 70 ECF members, personal emails, adresss', phone#
I can even post google map links so you can see their house

It's not my place to do so

I think teraphon will admit now it wasn't his place to do so either

If parked was ripping people off I could understand posting it, but for right now it's about his questionable honesty, I don't mind the accusations but he hasn't done anything to have his personal info posted on this thread

I know if someone did it to me I would be supa mad

I won't say that it "wasn't my place" but I will say that I may have been a bit hasty. I've posted MUCH more personal information about people in the past but I understand people thinking that what I did was a jerk move.

That's just how I do.

I can be a fairly heartless prick and tend to not care how things affect someone's life when they've been dishonest.

I was asked nicely, though, to remove the personal contact information and did so because...well...because I was asked nicely (by some...)

So, that's that...The incriminating evidence is still well intact.

[Spikey]

This thread is awesome....

Its like watching a bunch of drama queens.

Lets be honest most of the e cigs are pretty much the same with only a couple of manufactures overseas in China.

Seeing a review on the Janty, EVO, 401, 801, 901, 4081, etc makes no difference to me. Its up to the user to decide if that the e cig they want to vape with. Yes video helps but first hand knowledge is key.

Maybe I should start a rental program and you can rent the e cig of your choice to decide which one is best for you.

I"m going to pour myself a nice drink and sit back and enjoy two topped off 4081 carts which work great for me while getting my dose of the forums.

I can see how some of the suppliers take this matter seriously since the profits on these goods have anywhere from 40%-70% margins.

I could be wrong... but after the cost of shipping from overseas and dealing with customs and packaging (bubble wrap is expensive lol!) and domestic shipping and replacing parts I think the profit margin is closer to 20-30%. That is why I decided against becoming a supplier... I make $300 an hour at my job.. do you know how many PV';s I would have to sell at 20% profit to make that much?

I give all you suppliers props

[CaSHMeRe]

... I make $300 an hour at my job..

when we filming spike??????!!!!!!!

[ZambucaLu]

Tell me that's not true. Please, God, tell me that's not true

Yes, SJ, just before Steve opened his doors for the sale...there was a record high of members on and several were posting at the same exact time. There was one thread there in particular that was going nuts. We were locked out. I thought for sure we were going to totally crash. Thankfully we didn't. No one wants to go through that again!

Lu

[K-Sound Krew]

when we filming spike??????!!!!!!!

Yeah when are we filming Spike?
Cash is a good looking fellow, I'd give him a dirty sanchez

You directing right?

[Spikey]

when we filming spike??????!!!!!!!

Yeah when are we filming Spike?
Cash is a good looking fellow, I'd give him a dirty sanchez

You directing right?

yeah yeah! K and cash are gona get each other off in whatever way I deem respectable (or whatever way I deem will sell the most videos lol!) and I will keep all the $ cause I am their pimp and they are my ho's and I will profit from using their slutty selves If I feel it is inappropriate enough there could be a goat or a chicken involved in this shoot as well (of course I would pay the animals though!).

Ooop... I think I just crossed a line.. maybe that is why me and Terr get along so well? LOL!

[Terraphon]

yeah yeah! K and cash are gona get each other off in whatever way I deem respectable (or whatever way I deem will sell the most videos lol!) and I will keep all the $ cause I am their pimp and they are my ho's and I will profit from using their slutty selves If I feel it is inappropriate enough there could be a goat or a chicken involved in this shoot as well (of course I would pay the animals though!).

Ooop... I think I just crossed a line.. maybe that is why me and Terr get along so well? LOL!

wow...wow...wow...

I'm tryin' to do some freakin reviews here and Spikey's crossing the line...

Wow...

Maybe that IS why her and I get along so well!

<3 Spike.

[rickstar009]

My oh my! there has been allot of action in this room since i have been at work.......And i missed!! it all waaaa! ...Dam!! my day job, dam! it to hell ~shakes fist~

Give parked’s a break, yeah i was feeling a little annoyed about the whole situation at first but i have decided to give Parked the benefit on the doubt ...some of you guys really don't know for sure what the actual facts are and until you do hold the undisputable facts in your hands then please try and be alittle more understanding of the guy....

....in my country it's always been *presumed innocent before guilty*
...not sure how it is in your country

P.S: somebody remind me to never! piss Kate off, by the way ..Luckly there are many corners in and round this forum in where you can hide haha

*Looks around the corners for kate an then pi*sses off from this thread very quickly n quietly