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tried general mint, more yuck than ok in Other Alternatives to Smoking; Originally Posted by 42109 I've read all of the easy answers and they just don't always apply. hugs. Amen. Every ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by 42109 View Post
    I've read all of the easy answers and they just don't always apply. hugs.
    Amen. Every time I think I've found the easy answer, something in the question changes and it's back to the races!

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    10:53AM 39 hours with only snus for nicotine, working great so far and no urge for cigarettes

    bought 2 new General White Portion Mint and 2 General White Portion dry mini Mint locally plus 10 trial packs for $20.63

    i figured that buying just 10 cans would cost me $10 more if i bought them from Northern

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    August 03 smoked 00 cigs, 40 less than my usual 40 cigs a day 3198 cigarettes not smoked in 92 days by using Stonewall, Joye 510, Hello 016, Ken's BoxMod, MadVapes 2xAA Box Mod, WetBox Vaporizer (ecig) and 19 bottles of ejuice partially used , $0.28 per cig X 3198 Cigs = $895.44 diverted from cigarettes to Vaporizer (ecig). OMG I have spent over $2025.59 in 92 days on this stuff but bare in mind that my old cigarette cost was $330 a month

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    That's great jamesam. Snus really does the trick for alot of us. I still vape some and use a little nasal snuff but snus is definitely the staple for me that keeps the urges away. It's nice that you were able to find a local seller of general. I am still looking for one that is listed on the site that actually carries it in stock.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesam1243 View Post
    11:00 tried snus, my gumms hurt and i feel a little sick to my stomach

    does this take some getting use to? reminds me of chewing tobacco that removed the lining of my mouth

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    Jame,
    I wanted to like the Swedish Snus . I sampled about 8 different kinds and just couldn't buy the taste. I went with Camel and Marlboro Snus. as another post said, they are much sweeter, for me more palatable. The Swedish Snus has this distinct under flavor that I couldn't even try to get along with. If you already haven't, try the two brands. Snus really gets me through the times when I crave analogs. That with a strong tobacco juice. Good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesam1243 View Post
    10:53AM 39 hours with only snus for nicotine, working great so far and no urge for cigarettes

    bought 2 new General White Portion Mint and 2 General White Portion dry mini Mint locally plus 10 trial packs for $20.63

    i figured that buying just 10 cans would cost me $10 more if i bought them from Northern

    James

    August 03 smoked 00 cigs, 40 less than my usual 40 cigs a day 3198 cigarettes not smoked in 92 days by using Stonewall, Joye 510, Hello 016, Ken's BoxMod, MadVapes 2xAA Box Mod, WetBox Vaporizer (ecig) and 19 bottles of ejuice partially used , $0.28 per cig X 3198 Cigs = $895.44 diverted from cigarettes to Vaporizer (ecig). OMG I have spent over $2025.59 in 92 days on this stuff but bare in mind that my old cigarette cost was $330 a month
    So happy to hear that.

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    68 hours with only snus for nicotine, working great so far and no urge for cigarettes but this Swedish snus really doesn't taste too good to me

    i am reluctant to be too enthusiastic about snus, my powers of belief have been severely damaged during this 3 month "stop smoking" ordeal. my faith has been replaced by only hope

    my failed "only ecigs" experiment lasted 3 weeks before failing

    my failed "only Stonewall" experiment lasted 8 days before failing

    my present "only snus" experiment started August 02 so only 4 days old

    so for me it is just wait and see i guess, not a real enthusiastic attitude and i like to be
    enthusiastic about my endeavors.

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    August 04 smoked 00 cigs, 40 less than my usual 40 cigs a day 3238 cigarettes not smoked in 93 days by using Stonewall, Joye 510, Hello 016, Ken's BoxMod, MadVapes 2xAA Box Mod, WetBox Vaporizer (ecig) and 19 bottles of ejuice partially used , $0.28 per cig X 3238 Cigs = $906.64 diverted from cigarettes to Vaporizer (ecig). OMG I have spent over $2025.59 in 92 days on this stuff but bare in mind that my old cigarette cost was $330 a month, using snus right now ( General White Portion Mint )

    the general mini mint that i just bought says it expired on 05 18 2010, i called the tobacco shop and they replied that they just got it in and that it should be ok, but merchants have been known to lie when it is to their advantage at times.
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    James, why are you limiting yourself to one thing only? I think it may be a mistake. I use them all, all the time. I use snus for my "what's missing" needs, I use dissolvables for variety and speed of delivery, and I vape for my hand to mouth fixation, you know, muscle memory, blowing smoke thingy. I don't think I would survive a day on only one of them.

    Use them all, have fun. And don't overanalyze things. If you tell yourself things don't work, they won't work. A huge part of the cigarette addiction is purely psychological. Just allow yourself some time to develop new habits and new behaviors. It's going to happen, but it takes time.

    Good luck.

    Snus doesn't really expire. Just spray it with some water if it feels dry and put it in the fridge. Or add a slice of apple to the can and let it sit in the fridge for 24 hours.
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    i do vape while using snus but i only vape 0 mg ejuice, i am of the opinion that the nicotine is way out of balance in ejuice, also i am trying to increase my uptake of "those missing elements" and Stonewall was not doing it for me. i feel that the nicotine in ejuice and using Stonewall may reduce the effective level of what i am seeking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesam1243 View Post
    Katya

    i do vape while using snus but i only vape 0 mg ejuice, i am of the opinion that the nicotine is way out of balance in ejuice, also i am trying to increase my uptake of "those missing elements" and Stonewall was not doing it for me. i feel that the nicotine in ejuice and using Stonewall may reduce the effective level of what i am seeking.

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    That's fine. Whatever floats your boat, you know. We're all different. I use low nic e-liquids (12-15 mg) and it works for me. Remember, that nic content stated on your juice is just a number. We're actually getting only a small fraction of that. How small? Nobody knows, but I've seen estimates of about 10% or less. If 0 nic works, by all means, stay with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesam1243 View Post
    Katya

    i do vape while using snus but i only vape 0 mg ejuice, i am of the opinion that the nicotine is way out of balance in ejuice, also i am trying to increase my uptake of "those missing elements" and Stonewall was not doing it for me. i feel that the nicotine in ejuice and using Stonewall may reduce the effective level of what i am seeking.

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    Hi James . As food for thought to your quest for what some normal folks call "sanity" (I've read about 'em), I'll add that the good medicine in the snus is relative to the strength. The higher the nicotine content, the more potent effect the associated alkaloids have. The percentage stays the same so a higher nic snus also brings a higher portion of those much sought after maoi's. Hence my usage of extra stark snus. In my past life I've been prescribed several different antidepressants (never to be repeated) and a day of heavy dosing with strong Swedish snus has the same effect without the side-effects. Early on I had to cut down on the amount of snus I used because I became too mellow to have any drive. I'm better balanced now using 4 16-18mg snus per day, on average, and vape less than 1/2 ml of 36mg liquid for the stimulus effect. Generally speaking, Katya says it right. For the large majority of us, a combo of things work together to replace the smokes and still keep our lids on. Snus, PV's, snuff, dissolvables...all or in part. I've said many times that a cigarette was the perfect drug for anxiety and depression. They picked us up when we need picked up and calmed us down when we were anxious, excited or just needed to focus. None of these safe alternatives stand alone to replicate that. Some conditions or moods I can deal with ok, but some my body won't chemically make those adjustments for. Enter snus and PV for me; snus only for Stubby; snuff and PV for Wiz; snus, snuff and PV for hittman, all the above for Tropical Bob........ And one tends to learn a lot about themselves during this quest. Hang in there, bud .
    I'll check in later when I find out where I am, provided I'm still where I left myself :confused:.

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