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jarvis · 07-12-2008, 09:48 PM

I've been wondering when big tobac would have an answer to the e-cig. Apparently this is all that their creative minds could come up with. From what I've been able to find about this short lived product is that it heats up a special cigarette that you stick in the end, and you suck the fumes. It doesn't claim to be safer for the smoker, just eliminates some second hand smoke.
Heatbar - Tobacco Products

dnakr · 07-13-2008, 01:34 AM

Yeah, in December 2007 they were to launch in Australia. I haven't read any updates yet. I have a hard time believing that the general public would take to these.

TropicalBob · 07-13-2008, 02:40 AM

Months ago, we had an entire thread devoted to the Heatbar. I'm not sure why that thread was dropped, but apparently it was. Lots of posts there. Much laughter!

jarvis · 07-13-2008, 05:10 AM

Ah, sorry for the repost. Apparently I'm not the only one that thought this thing has failure written all over it. Why do you keep checking your temperature? I'm not, I'm heatbarring!

TropicalBob · 07-13-2008, 03:38 PM

I thought it looked like something I could plug a toothbrush into .. vibrate-brush my teeth clean after sucking a dry cigarette for 10 minutes.

Course, if it came with drill bits, I might be interested.

Gotta edit this to make a serious point: This Heatbar uses TOBACCO. And that's all Big Tobacco is interested in. Their sizable investment and its profit potential rests with the future of tobacco products. E-cigs are the devil's invention. They don't use tobacco at all -- and the nicotine for e-liquid can be derived from potatoes or eggplant. Tobacco is not an essential for e-smoking. For that reason, Big Tobacco will oppose e-smoking. Course, so will Big Pharma, who will quietly tell legislators that millions have been spent researching nicotine products that are now available to help smokers quit. Why allow an upstart Chinese toy to go unregulated? Why, it could be unsafe! Attractive even to children. All levels of government will oppose e-smoking, too, facing the potential loss of tax revenues paid by poor, pathetic, addicted smokers.

The Heatbar is a silly device that solves nothing. It still produces second-hand smoke. It's ridiculously expensive and cumbersome. Can you imagine sitting in a restaurant or bar and sucking one of these? Only the weirdest of the weird would think this is bling worth publicly displaying. If I want smoke, I'll reach for my pipe and some quality pipe tobacco.

Nazareth · 07-13-2008, 05:23 PM

I'm not sure what it is or how it works, but it sounds to me like it's still a vaporizer as any herb can be vaporized- just needs to be heated to temps below the burn point- if htis is the case, then basically, what the heatbar is is a Vapor-Geni-like device, and if it's just vaporizing hte product, then it's basically the same hting we use- only it's vaporizing herb, and not liquid?

jarvis · 07-13-2008, 07:26 PM

I'm not sure either, all of the websites I've read state that it isn't supposed to be a "safe" form of tobacco. Perhaps it's because all of the additives in the tobacco are unsafe when vaporized?
I agree with you about big tobacco TropicalBob, that company is just as stagnant and set in it's ways as big oil. No hope for either of them. If the birds keep coming to the cat, it will stay fat.

Nazareth · 07-13-2008, 07:43 PM

I'm not sure the chemicals get vaporized- perhaps they say no safe cigg because of the nicotine which is known not tobe safe

TropicalBob · 07-13-2008, 09:14 PM

Jarvis: I found that old thread on the Heatbar! Check it out. Lots of good stuff.

Heatbar - is Philip Morris getting desperate?

jasondavis48108 · 07-14-2008, 12:43 AM

I saw photos of a spent heatbar cig which made it look like the heatbar was scortching the cig. scortching=burned, I don't think this thing is much safer if any than smoking

07-12-2008, 09:48 PM	#1
jarvis Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tx Posts: 225	Heatbar? I've been wondering when big tobac would have an answer to the e-cig. Apparently this is all that their creative minds could come up with. From what I've been able to find about this short lived product is that it heats up a special cigarette that you stick in the end, and you suck the fumes. It doesn't claim to be safer for the smoker, just eliminates some second hand smoke. Heatbar - Tobacco Products

07-13-2008, 03:38 PM	#5
TropicalBob Super Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Port Charlotte, FL USA Posts: 2,895	I thought it looked like something I could plug a toothbrush into .. vibrate-brush my teeth clean after sucking a dry cigarette for 10 minutes. Course, if it came with drill bits, I might be interested. Gotta edit this to make a serious point: This Heatbar uses TOBACCO. And that's all Big Tobacco is interested in. Their sizable investment and its profit potential rests with the future of tobacco products. E-cigs are the devil's invention. They don't use tobacco at all -- and the nicotine for e-liquid can be derived from potatoes or eggplant. Tobacco is not an essential for e-smoking. For that reason, Big Tobacco will oppose e-smoking. Course, so will Big Pharma, who will quietly tell legislators that millions have been spent researching nicotine products that are now available to help smokers quit. Why allow an upstart Chinese toy to go unregulated? Why, it could be unsafe! Attractive even to children. All levels of government will oppose e-smoking, too, facing the potential loss of tax revenues paid by poor, pathetic, addicted smokers. The Heatbar is a silly device that solves nothing. It still produces second-hand smoke. It's ridiculously expensive and cumbersome. Can you imagine sitting in a restaurant or bar and sucking one of these? Only the weirdest of the weird would think this is bling worth publicly displaying. If I want smoke, I'll reach for my pipe and some quality pipe tobacco. Last edited by TropicalBob; 07-13-2008 at 03:49 PM.

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07-13-2008, 01:34 AM	#2
dnakr Little Miss Mod Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Virginia, USA Posts: 1,068	Yeah, in December 2007 they were to launch in Australia. I haven't read any updates yet. I have a hard time believing that the general public would take to these.

07-13-2008, 02:40 AM	#3
TropicalBob Super Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Port Charlotte, FL USA Posts: 2,895	Months ago, we had an entire thread devoted to the Heatbar. I'm not sure why that thread was dropped, but apparently it was. Lots of posts there. Much laughter!

07-13-2008, 05:10 AM	#4
jarvis Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tx Posts: 225	Ah, sorry for the repost. Apparently I'm not the only one that thought this thing has failure written all over it. Why do you keep checking your temperature? I'm not, I'm heatbarring!

07-13-2008, 05:23 PM	#6
Nazareth Super Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: USA Posts: 1,302	I'm not sure what it is or how it works, but it sounds to me like it's still a vaporizer as any herb can be vaporized- just needs to be heated to temps below the burn point- if htis is the case, then basically, what the heatbar is is a Vapor-Geni-like device, and if it's just vaporizing hte product, then it's basically the same hting we use- only it's vaporizing herb, and not liquid?

07-13-2008, 07:26 PM	#7
jarvis Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Tx Posts: 225	I'm not sure either, all of the websites I've read state that it isn't supposed to be a "safe" form of tobacco. Perhaps it's because all of the additives in the tobacco are unsafe when vaporized? I agree with you about big tobacco TropicalBob, that company is just as stagnant and set in it's ways as big oil. No hope for either of them. If the birds keep coming to the cat, it will stay fat.

07-13-2008, 07:43 PM	#8
Nazareth Super Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: USA Posts: 1,302	I'm not sure the chemicals get vaporized- perhaps they say no safe cigg because of the nicotine which is known not tobe safe

07-13-2008, 09:14 PM	#9
TropicalBob Super Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Port Charlotte, FL USA Posts: 2,895	Jarvis: I found that old thread on the Heatbar! Check it out. Lots of good stuff. Heatbar - is Philip Morris getting desperate?

07-14-2008, 12:43 AM	#10
jasondavis48108 Full Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ann Arbor Michigan Posts: 125	I saw photos of a spent heatbar cig which made it look like the heatbar was scortching the cig. scortching=burned, I don't think this thing is much safer if any than smoking