Sound familiar?

[webtaxman]

Oh Katink, what a devil's brew this mess is. And how do we escape it? VCU is under Philip Morris' thumb and PM will get that "anti snus" research it wants. That will allow the PM position on the board at the FDA, considering alternatives, to deny snus legal status in this country (it is banned in the EU, as you're surely aware).

We can also expect nasty reports on e-smoking as we now practice it, but praiseworthy reports on PM's Aria inhaler (when the company is ready to market it). Ban today's e-devices. Approve the Aria.

PM has bought it all -- a medical university, hospital, research facility, professors. And it has veto power over everything discovered while using its millions in donations. What a tragedy.

Here we sit .. a David who is clueless that Goliath not only is bigger but has an A-bomb at his disposal.

TB, I am often conflicted about starting a new post because I am not sure just how much you know, and the fact you know so much, and that you may not reveal your findings for fear of a mass revolt! (literally, the masses!).

I am quite sure you are aware of this finding, perhaps the whole board is, but there are some new people since my short stay, and quite frankly, this is shocking:

3 phase plan and it all fell together today:

Phase 3 of tobacco control’s comprehensive long term nicotine policy, which is dependent on FDA regulation of tobacco passing in Congress, explicitly says:

“The third phase includes a progressive reduction in the nicotine content of cigarettes, with clean nicotine freely available to take the place of tobacco as society’s main nicotine source.”




Phase 1 and 2

Mission accomplished. I've had 2 months to figure this out. Never thought they could pull something like this off. I am ashamed of my country. I can now answer the question--where else you wanna live?

[dijohn76]

I'm thinking the North Pole. I don't think there is any government there except for Santa. If I'm a good girl maybe he will give me e-cigs for Christmas Sorry, I know this is serious and I'm trying to laugh because if I don't I'll start crying and probably not stop.

[TropicalBob]

Can I just say that, yes, I was familiar with the three-step proposition you post about -- and it is indeed coming to pass.

[webtaxman]

Can I just say that, yes, I was familiar with the three-step proposition you post about -- and it is indeed coming to pass.

Thanks TB, that was what I thought. You have an entire State (Washington State) outlining each and every phase, and why in writing, written over 2 years ago.

Not even a State had enough power to stop this. This takes care of the nicotine issue, correct? Pure Nicotine will be manufactured by Phillip Morris, sold by Big Pharma, will have FDA approval, and eventually FDA approval of PM's new e-cigs--whatever they will call them. The government does not seemed worried about tobacco taxes--New income will be generated from the corporate taxes. Oh, and the user tax. Funny, we all want transparency, and were promised that. Most everyone doesn't know this is coming.

Mike