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paladinx · 05-19-2009, 05:08 AM

well been trying the snus today to quit smoking. It has at least cut me down. hopefully i can just use snus only, but its not as pleasurable as a cigarette that much i can tell you. Something about a cigarette is very hard to mimic. the feeling of it, and the type of nicotine in it definitely is the most satisfying to me. I wish they just made healthier cigarettes lol.

But its probably something u have to get used to switching to snus. Gotta stick with it, im going to try.

Stubby · 05-21-2009, 09:35 AM

I tried to quit smoking using just e-cigs and it wasn’t working. I was able to cut down to about a forth of my tobacco use but I couldn’t let them go. After about a month I was drifting back to using more tobacco. That’s when I found snus. It still took some time and effort but I was finally able to get off analogs.

I wouldn’t worry about smoking if you feel you must. It’s very likely that after awhile your need will just get less and less. Snus is very satisfying once you get the hang of it. The trick for me was getting the dose right. It takes a bit to get the hang of it. My method is to use both the minis and regular 8-mg portions. Nothing above that (your milage may vary on that). I get a good nicotine hit from the regular portions and I need that several times a day. The minis I use to keep the demons at bay. Another trick I learned is using the purified snus. I just do the 3-mg portions. It’s a much faster hit then any other snus. You have to be a bit careful with that stuff but it works well in the morning to get your nicotine level up to speed.

I still do some e-cigs, but not much. I more likely will do nasal snuff for a quick hit. If you’re not into e-cigs I would suggest trying some to supplement snus. Sometimes I just want that quick hit that I can’t get from snus.

Hope this helps.

Moonlighter · 05-21-2009, 09:41 AM

I've never heard of snus. What is that?

TropicalBob · 05-21-2009, 03:05 PM

Ignoring the above because the answer is everywhere on this forum.

Paladinx: Use everything. Don't make your choice an either/or proposition. Use whatever feels right for you to stay off cigarettes. Every cigarette is an insult to your body. Every one of them. Dr. Laugesen makes clears that there is no "safe" level of cigarette smoking. Not five a day. Not one a day. Agree or disagree with him, but he's an authority on this, and the chief researcher on e-smoking.

You might find you begin liking snus more and more. That was my case. It does far more for me from a "nic boost" consideration than e-smoking. But I'm most dependent on dissolvables, and dread possible action against them based on the Senate hearings now underway.

Hang in there. Try many different brands and flavors ... while you still can!

P.S. I assume you read www.snuson.com

paladinx · 05-21-2009, 06:57 PM

That would really suck if i got into snus and then i couldnt buy it anymore. :-\ I guess the camel snus would still be around, but geez. I guess id go to skoal than, i know its not as healthy for your mouth, but im sure its better then smoking, Plus i heard reports that say the TSNA's in american tobacco are also far lower now then they used to be, but who knows.

Yeah I dont really agree with the researcher about cigarettes, only because anyone with health issues from cigarettes, I would say more than 9 out of 10 times is someone who smoked packs a day for decades. and all studies on cigarettes have clearly shown that negative effects are very dose dependant. but none of that means nothing to me because the truth of the matter is i can never keep moderation with cigarettes. its a pack and a half a day or nothing for me. I tried to cut down with little success.

TropicalBob · 05-21-2009, 07:37 PM

Here's something someone with a sick humor might find funny:

Camel Snus will likely be banned if the Senate bill becomes law. It was not introduced prior to the Feb. 15, 2007, cutoff date specified in the bill as currently written. Anything before that date is grandfathered. New products after that date face regulatory hurdles that will trip almost all of them.

Camel Snus comes from RJR. Camel Orbs and Sticks come from RJR.

This is a Philip Morris bill the Senate is passing. PM has no snus, right? I thought so too until I remembered and read about Taboka. Yep, that's the spelling. It came on the market by PM in ... 2006. I tried it back then. Still have the tin it came in.

Eliminate the competition. PM is good at it.

PM marketed a snus before 2007. No other American Big Tobacco company did. So PM alone can market a snus product here if the Senate bill becomes law.

Stubby · 05-21-2009, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paladinx

That would really suck if i got into snus and then i couldnt buy it anymore. :-\ I guess the camel snus would still be around, but geez. I guess id go to skoal than, i know its not as healthy for your mouth, but im sure its better then smoking, Plus i heard reports that say the TSNA's in american tobacco are also far lower now then they used to be, but who knows.

Yeah I dont really agree with the researcher about cigarettes, only because anyone with health issues from cigarettes, I would say more than 9 out of 10 times is someone who smoked packs a day for decades. and all studies on cigarettes have clearly shown that negative effects are very dose dependant. but none of that means nothing to me because the truth of the matter is i can never keep moderation with cigarettes. its a pack and a half a day or nothing for me. I tried to cut down with little success.

Even though I've been following the politics of this I'm not sure in what way it will effect the distribution of snus, nasal snuff etc. With e-cigs the ban would make it illegal to import and sell in the US, but it's very likely you'll be able to get it in small personal shipments from overseas.

With snus I assume that the US distributors would shut down (though don't quote me on that) but you should still be abel to get small personal use shipments from Sweden. Snus is banned in the EU but people are still getting personal use shipments from Sweden. I haven't heard of any shipments being turned back. At the moment I get most of my snus directly from the Swedes anyway so not much would change. The only real question is will the Swedish distributers ship to the US? I have to assume they would as they've been doing it in the EU.

TropicalBob · 05-21-2009, 07:55 PM

An initial ban would likely affect only snus sold in America. That means Camel goes away; Taboka returns.

As for Swedish snus, it's not yet an issue. Waaaaay too small a number of people order it online. PM is looking at getting snus in every tobacco store someday. Online orders mean next to nothing to them .. or anyone.

I think online ordering of snus will remain legal. Just a hunch. I think online ordering of e-cig products will be banned, with suppliers identified and their shipments stopped. I think in a year or two, you'll see the Philip Morris Aria being sold in the U.S.

The End Game is market control. And Swedish snus just aren't a big enough prize to warrant an effort to stop them.

dEFinitionofEPIC · 05-21-2009, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TropicalBob

The End Game is market control. And Swedish snus just aren't a big enough prize to warrant an effort to stop them.

As much as I hate what's going on... if they end up leaving Swedish snus alone I will surely still be a happy camper.

I know that's a slightly selfish way to think but that's where I'm at right now.

knob · 06-04-2009, 08:51 AM

Back to the topic of the OP... I had the same issue when I started using snus. It gave me the nicotine kick, but it took longer than I wanted and lacked the stuff I really had grown to like about cigarettes -- the throat and lung burn, the action of doing it, leaving the floor at work for a quick break (allowing me to get my thoughts together), and most of all, the social aspect.

So whenever I felt the urge to smoke, I'd pop a snus in and have a cigarette at the same time. Before I even got done with the cigarette, the snus would kick in and the cigarette would be a lot less appealing to me, so I'd toss it. It went this way for about a week. I'd pop a snus in, smoke half a cigarette, then throw it away. Eventually, my last pack of cigarettes got so old that I finally threw them away. The one pack lasted me 3 weeks.

I won't lie, I still crave one from time to time, but snus has definitely taken its place. If I put one in, the urge goes away pretty quickly. I still miss some things about them, mostly the social aspect, but I've mostly moved on.

Mostly.. I have had a total of 3 cigarettes in the last month because I was drinking with smoking friends. I don't really hold that against myself though. 3 cigarettes a month isn't really all that bad.

05-19-2009, 05:08 AM	#1
paladinx ECF Veteran Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: NYC Posts: 351	Snus to quit smoking well been trying the snus today to quit smoking. It has at least cut me down. hopefully i can just use snus only, but its not as pleasurable as a cigarette that much i can tell you. Something about a cigarette is very hard to mimic. the feeling of it, and the type of nicotine in it definitely is the most satisfying to me. I wish they just made healthier cigarettes lol. But its probably something u have to get used to switching to snus. Gotta stick with it, im going to try.

05-21-2009, 09:35 AM	#2
Stubby Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Madison, WI USA Posts: 186	I tried to quit smoking using just e-cigs and it wasn’t working. I was able to cut down to about a forth of my tobacco use but I couldn’t let them go. After about a month I was drifting back to using more tobacco. That’s when I found snus. It still took some time and effort but I was finally able to get off analogs. I wouldn’t worry about smoking if you feel you must. It’s very likely that after awhile your need will just get less and less. Snus is very satisfying once you get the hang of it. The trick for me was getting the dose right. It takes a bit to get the hang of it. My method is to use both the minis and regular 8-mg portions. Nothing above that (your milage may vary on that). I get a good nicotine hit from the regular portions and I need that several times a day. The minis I use to keep the demons at bay. Another trick I learned is using the purified snus. I just do the 3-mg portions. It’s a much faster hit then any other snus. You have to be a bit careful with that stuff but it works well in the morning to get your nicotine level up to speed. I still do some e-cigs, but not much. I more likely will do nasal snuff for a quick hit. If you’re not into e-cigs I would suggest trying some to supplement snus. Sometimes I just want that quick hit that I can’t get from snus. Hope this helps. __________________ Stubby Madison WI

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05-21-2009, 09:41 AM	#3
Moonlighter Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Arizona Posts: 215	I've never heard of snus. What is that?

05-21-2009, 03:05 PM	#4
TropicalBob ECF Veteran Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Port Charlotte, FL USA Posts: 5,076	Ignoring the above because the answer is everywhere on this forum. Paladinx: Use everything. Don't make your choice an either/or proposition. Use whatever feels right for you to stay off cigarettes. Every cigarette is an insult to your body. Every one of them. Dr. Laugesen makes clears that there is no "safe" level of cigarette smoking. Not five a day. Not one a day. Agree or disagree with him, but he's an authority on this, and the chief researcher on e-smoking. You might find you begin liking snus more and more. That was my case. It does far more for me from a "nic boost" consideration than e-smoking. But I'm most dependent on dissolvables, and dread possible action against them based on the Senate hearings now underway. Hang in there. Try many different brands and flavors ... while you still can! P.S. I assume you read www.snuson.com

05-21-2009, 06:57 PM	#5
paladinx ECF Veteran Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: NYC Posts: 351	That would really suck if i got into snus and then i couldnt buy it anymore. :-\ I guess the camel snus would still be around, but geez. I guess id go to skoal than, i know its not as healthy for your mouth, but im sure its better then smoking, Plus i heard reports that say the TSNA's in american tobacco are also far lower now then they used to be, but who knows. Yeah I dont really agree with the researcher about cigarettes, only because anyone with health issues from cigarettes, I would say more than 9 out of 10 times is someone who smoked packs a day for decades. and all studies on cigarettes have clearly shown that negative effects are very dose dependant. but none of that means nothing to me because the truth of the matter is i can never keep moderation with cigarettes. its a pack and a half a day or nothing for me. I tried to cut down with little success.

05-21-2009, 07:37 PM	#6
TropicalBob ECF Veteran Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Port Charlotte, FL USA Posts: 5,076	Here's something someone with a sick humor might find funny: Camel Snus will likely be banned if the Senate bill becomes law. It was not introduced prior to the Feb. 15, 2007, cutoff date specified in the bill as currently written. Anything before that date is grandfathered. New products after that date face regulatory hurdles that will trip almost all of them. Camel Snus comes from RJR. Camel Orbs and Sticks come from RJR. This is a Philip Morris bill the Senate is passing. PM has no snus, right? I thought so too until I remembered and read about Taboka. Yep, that's the spelling. It came on the market by PM in ... 2006. I tried it back then. Still have the tin it came in. Eliminate the competition. PM is good at it. PM marketed a snus before 2007. No other American Big Tobacco company did. So PM alone can market a snus product here if the Senate bill becomes law.

05-21-2009, 07:55 PM	#8
TropicalBob ECF Veteran Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Port Charlotte, FL USA Posts: 5,076	An initial ban would likely affect only snus sold in America. That means Camel goes away; Taboka returns. As for Swedish snus, it's not yet an issue. Waaaaay too small a number of people order it online. PM is looking at getting snus in every tobacco store someday. Online orders mean next to nothing to them .. or anyone. I think online ordering of snus will remain legal. Just a hunch. I think online ordering of e-cig products will be banned, with suppliers identified and their shipments stopped. I think in a year or two, you'll see the Philip Morris Aria being sold in the U.S. The End Game is market control. And Swedish snus just aren't a big enough prize to warrant an effort to stop them.

06-04-2009, 08:51 AM	#10
knob Full Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 11	Back to the topic of the OP... I had the same issue when I started using snus. It gave me the nicotine kick, but it took longer than I wanted and lacked the stuff I really had grown to like about cigarettes -- the throat and lung burn, the action of doing it, leaving the floor at work for a quick break (allowing me to get my thoughts together), and most of all, the social aspect. So whenever I felt the urge to smoke, I'd pop a snus in and have a cigarette at the same time. Before I even got done with the cigarette, the snus would kick in and the cigarette would be a lot less appealing to me, so I'd toss it. It went this way for about a week. I'd pop a snus in, smoke half a cigarette, then throw it away. Eventually, my last pack of cigarettes got so old that I finally threw them away. The one pack lasted me 3 weeks. I won't lie, I still crave one from time to time, but snus has definitely taken its place. If I put one in, the urge goes away pretty quickly. I still miss some things about them, mostly the social aspect, but I've mostly moved on. Mostly.. I have had a total of 3 cigarettes in the last month because I was drinking with smoking friends. I don't really hold that against myself though. 3 cigarettes a month isn't really all that bad.