e-cigarette-forum.com • The place for electronic cigarette reviews, news and chat

Go Back   e-cigarette-forum.com • The place for electronic cigarette reviews, news and chat > Health and Medical Issues > Other Alternatives to Smoking > Smokeless tobacco
Connect with Facebook
Register Blogs FAQ Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Notices

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-29-2009, 04:38 PM   #11
Full Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 105
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kobayashi View Post
I just got into the camel Snus. I realy like it and it seems healthier. One drawback is it rots your gums and stains your teeth. I heard the Swedish Snus was better and found a site to order a trial pack for a buck.
It is my understanding that the Swedish snus are pasteurized. This somehow removes some of the carcinogens. From what I have read the American Camel and Marlboro snus are not.
Stranger is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-29-2009, 06:57 PM   #12
Senior Member
 
Stubby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Madison, WI USA
Posts: 188
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kobayashi View Post
I just got into the camel Snus. I realy like it and it seems healthier. One drawback is it rots your gums and stains your teeth. I heard the Swedish Snus was better and found a site to order a trial pack for a buck. Its Get snus at GetSnus.com. I tried this stuff i didnt like it better than the Camel Mild Snus.
Some good propaganda type information in the above statement. At best a big exaggeration. Just had a cleaning/checkup a few days ago and my dentist is very glad I'm off cigarettes. Nothing unusual going on. Gums look healthier then they have when I smoked.

Some people do report some mild gum recession where the snus can touch the gum line on the upper teeth. Others report noticeable better gums after quitting cigarettes for snus. Get a Sonicare and some floss and you're not likely going to have any problems.
__________________
Stubby
Madison WI
Stubby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-29-2009, 10:30 PM   #13
Senior Member
 
smokinsimon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Posts: 232
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stranger View Post
Why has no company came up with the all mint snuff with nicotine?
short answer the FDA
That's such a shame, all mint snuff with nicotine could save millions and millions of people world wide. I wish a company had the balls to step up with it.
__________________
Happy customer of: Choicevapor,Mist-stix,Njoy,Innovapor
smokinsimon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2009, 02:49 PM   #14
ECF Veteran
 
TropicalBob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Port Charlotte, FL USA
Posts: 5,076
Default

Stonewall Wintergreen is a dissolvable pellet of tobacco with a strong mint taste. American Smokeless Tobacco's new Discreet brand has two flavors of snus in mint. They are quite sweet. It's out there ...
TropicalBob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-12-2009, 08:54 PM   #15
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 175
Default

Bought a $1.99 pack of camel snus and got another one for free. Tried the frost and it was o.k. Not great, not bad. I still have to try the mellow on the way home. Don't see how i could become addicted to this stuff though. The pouch was visible, not too discrete. I guess i have to put it back toward my molars?

Last edited by nikomoul; 08-12-2009 at 08:58 PM.
nikomoul is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2009, 01:03 AM   #16
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 175
Default

O.K. Update! I tried the mellow on the way home and it was DELICIOUS! It didn't burn either! It tasted like honey and sugar. There was a slight orange-flavored tea flavor too. Mmmm! I could like this after all!
nikomoul is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2009, 02:39 AM   #17
ECF Veteran
 
TropicalBob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Port Charlotte, FL USA
Posts: 5,076
Default

I have a mellow in place at this very moment. These are indeed quite tasty. My only complaint will be price/value versus Swedish snus ordered online. RJR just thinks they can get more than $4 for 15 pieces!
TropicalBob is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2009, 02:44 AM   #18
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 175
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TropicalBob View Post
I have a mellow in place at this very moment. These are indeed quite tasty. My only complaint will be price/value versus Swedish snus ordered online. RJR just thinks they can get more than $4 for 15 pieces!
Tropicalbob, I read somewhere that the camel snus has like 8 mg of nicotine? Am I wrong here? I remember reading that each marlboro light cig had 0.8 mg nicotine. Am i taking in 10x the amount of nicotine with the snus???
nikomoul is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2009, 08:47 AM   #19
Senior Member
 
Stubby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Madison, WI USA
Posts: 188
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by nikomoul View Post
Tropicalbob, I read somewhere that the camel snus has like 8 mg of nicotine? Am I wrong here? I remember reading that each marlboro light cig had 0.8 mg nicotine. Am i taking in 10x the amount of nicotine with the snus???
Okay, I'm not TB but I'll give it a try.

Here's a link to a good article by Swedish Match on nicotine absorption via snus

Nicotine uptake - Swedish Match

Bottom line is that you only absorb about 10% to 20% of the nicotine in snus.

A quote from the article

Quote:
An experimental cross-over study of blood plasma levels obtained after controlled snus use of four different portion-packed snus products of various weight and format, different nicotine content and different pH values showed that the nicotine intake varies between 0.4 and 1.2 mg per pinch.
The nicotine numbers you cited are for absorbed nicotine for Marlboro lights. The actual nicotine content of the cigarette is likely about 10 times that amount. The trick in this is to not confuse actual with absorbed nicotine. Bottom line is that if you are a light cigarette smoker, and not more then a pack-a-day, you will likely do well with minis. Perhaps an occasional regular portion if you feel the need.

There are actually other things to consider with nicotine absorption. The ph value can also have an big influence. The higher the ph the more and faster the nic is absorbed. The came SNUS may have 8mg of nicotine but the ph is likely on the low side. You get about the same amount of nic as a higher ph swedish mini snus. Same goes for the Discreet snus from what I have been hearing.

Hope this helps
__________________
Stubby
Madison WI
Stubby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-13-2009, 02:54 PM   #20
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 175
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Stubby View Post
Okay, I'm not TB but I'll give it a try.

The nicotine numbers you cited are for absorbed nicotine for Marlboro lights. The actual nicotine content of the cigarette is likely about 10 times that amount. The trick in this is to not confuse actual with absorbed nicotine. Bottom line is that if you are a light cigarette smoker, and not more then a pack-a-day, you will likely do well with minis. Perhaps an occasional regular portion if you feel the need.
Hope this helps
I had read each cigarette contains 0.8 mg nicotine, but that we only inhale/take in about 50% of that. Hmmm... confusing!
nikomoul is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks
  • Submit Thread to Digg Digg
  • Submit Thread to del.icio.us del.icio.us
  • Submit Thread to StumbleUpon StumbleUpon
  • Submit Thread to Google Google

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 09:55 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0 RC8
© ECF 2007 to 2009 ψ Ω

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184