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Old 07-29-2009, 07:50 AM   #1
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Hi everybody,
I'm still a smoker, never had intentions on quitting, but to use ecig as a alternative. But I still smoke.
Anyway, went to get a pack of smokes the other day, and they were giving away free tins of snus with any RJ brand.
Now I've got 3 tins sitting here, and havent tried them yet.
I have 2 frost and 1 mellow, still unopened. They sell them cold. So my question is why do they sell them cold?
Also does anybody have any study info on them, I'd like to know if they are any safer than any other tobacco product.
I used to dip Skoal bandits maybe 16 years ago as a teen, (was just what farm boys did) I just can't get my head around why you don't have to spit, I remember back in school we would put a bandit i the upper lip so we didnt get as much spit, and could hide it in class, but would still make ya feel yucky after awhile swallowing it. How is snus any different?
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Old 07-29-2009, 08:28 AM   #2
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And another question..
Why has no company came up with the all mint snuff with nicotine?
Seems like the perfect solution. If it had the nic levels of regular dip, but made from mint, problem solved.. Or at least 99% solved.. Damn thats a perfect solution for a lot of people out there.
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Wow. Smoke. Vape. Dip. And how don't you throw up? Lol.
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Hi everybody,
I'm still a smoker, never had intentions on quitting, but to use ecig as a alternative. But I still smoke.
Anyway, went to get a pack of smokes the other day, and they were giving away free tins of snus with any RJ brand.
Now I've got 3 tins sitting here, and havent tried them yet.
I have 2 frost and 1 mellow, still unopened. They sell them cold. So my question is why do they sell them cold?
Also does anybody have any study info on them, I'd like to know if they are any safer than any other tobacco product.
I used to dip Skoal bandits maybe 16 years ago as a teen, (was just what farm boys did) I just can't get my head around why you don't have to spit, I remember back in school we would put a bandit i the upper lip so we didnt get as much spit, and could hide it in class, but would still make ya feel yucky after awhile swallowing it. How is snus any different?
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Lots of questions. I would start out by doing some reading here

SNUSCentral.Org - Your Source For Everything SNUS

Also a good snus forum

http://www.snuson.com/index.php

Lots of good information on snus and reduced harm. There are decades of studies done on snus. It's the major form of tobacco used in Sweden so the whole country is one big study group.

It's refrigerated for freshness. It's not as critical with the white portions (that's what camel SNUS is) but it's generally a good idea.

You don't spit snus, and it taste wonderful, though it can be an acquired taste. The toxicity level of Swedish style snus are far lower then the american snuff. It's air cured and steam pasteurized as opposed to fire cured and fermented as with the american skoal type. No connection to any oral cancers. Swallowing the juice will not make you sick.

Swedish style snus is the poster boy for reduced harm tobacco with far more research behind it then e-cigs.
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Old 07-29-2009, 09:50 AM   #5
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Wow. Smoke. Vape. Dip. And how don't you throw up? Lol.
LOL.. No I don't dip, I did back in high school, and started smoking due to the girl factor.. They didn't like kissing a dude with a chew habit lol..


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Lots of questions. I would start out by doing some reading here

SNUSCentral.Org - Your Source For Everything SNUS

Also a good snus forum

SnusOn.com - Snus Forum :: Index

Lots of good information on snus and reduced harm. There are decades of studies done on snus. It's the major form of tobacco used in Sweden so the whole country is one big study group.

It's refrigerated for freshness. It's not as critical with the white portions (that's what camel SNUS is) but it's generally a good idea.

You don't spit snus, and it taste wonderful, though it can be an acquired taste. The toxicity level of Swedish style snus are far lower then the american snuff. It's air cured and steam pasteurized as opposed to fire cured and fermented as with the american skoal type. No connection to any oral cancers. Swallowing the juice will not make you sick.

Swedish style snus is the poster boy for reduced harm tobacco with far more research behind it then e-cigs.
Thanks for the info man,
Bookmarked.
I was trying ecigs to cut down maybe quit cigs, it works for the most part, but not as well, or as convenient or socially aceptable as I would like, for now anyway, not cutting it for me. But that's OK, not for everybody I guess, at least I gave it a good open minded shot.
I got free tins of Camel snus with my cigs, haven't tried them yet. Sitting on my desk. Just opened and smelled them, and they smell nice.
So the Swedish snus is different than American snus? So does that meen American snus isn't any less risky than regular ol' skoal?
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LOL.. No I don't dip, I did back in high school, and started smoking due to the girl factor.. They didn't like kissing a dude with a chew habit lol..




Thanks for the info man,
Bookmarked.
I was trying ecigs to cut down maybe quit cigs, it works for the most part, but not as well, or as convenient or socially aceptable as I would like, for now anyway, not cutting it for me. But that's OK, not for everybody I guess, at least I gave it a good open minded shot.
I got free tins of Camel snus with my cigs, haven't tried them yet. Sitting on my desk. Just opened and smelled them, and they smell nice.
So the Swedish snus is different than American snus? So does that meen American snus isn't any less risky than regular ol' skoal?
A good question and one that brings up a lot of debate among snus users. American camel Snus is very likely a good deal less risky over skoal. The question is how much compared to Swedish Snus. In Sweden snus is heavily regulated. All ingredients are listed on the package. There is also extensive testing for purity etc. It's all open and in the public. You know what you're getting.

With the American camel SNUS... you're just not quite sure. No ingredients listed. Toxicity levels are hard to come by. Best guess is that it's much better then skoal. But speaking for myself, given the choice, I'll stay with the Swedes.
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Thanks for the info again.
Giving these a taste, and they arent too bad. There is a smoke shop 30 min from me that sells General brand swede snus. Might give that a try, these work pretty good. After 15 years of smoking 1.5-2 packs a day, anythings better than that. Gotta get of these things, can't breath anymore. Doc said I had to quit, cause I'm weezing.
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I can't exactly explain why you don't need to spit Snus, but I'll say this...you just don't.

If you put it near the front of your mouth (on the top) it really doesn't even get that wet. You can press your gums against your lip for a big "hit" of it, and nothing will really come out.

Now, if you put it back by your molars on the top, then you'll feel like you need to spit. I've swallowed a small amount a few times and didn't throw up (swallowing the same amount while dipping probably would have), but it's still unpleasant.

I got into Snus because I had a rental car for a few weeks and wasn't supposed to smoke in it on my hour commute to work...it actually did the trick.
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I just got into the camel Snus. I realy like it and it seems healthier. One drawback is it rots your gums and stains your teeth. I heard the Swedish Snus was better and found a site to order a trial pack for a buck. Its Get snus at GetSnus.com. I tried this stuff i didnt like it better than the Camel Mild Snus.
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Why has no company came up with the all mint snuff with nicotine?
short answer the FDA
All of Camels new non smoking products (Snus, orb, sticks and the others) contain tobacco not straight nicotine. Until a few weeks ago that kept them out from under the FDA's control. Tobacco products were ok (but heavily taxed) anything that delivers nicotine other than tobacco is a drug. That is why for years you had to have a Rx for nicotine gum but could get smokes and chew most any place.

That is what I am afraid will do in e cigs. If they are tobacco , then they will be taxed and you can't use them in public. If they are not tobacco, they are a drug in the eyes of the FDA.
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