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Webby · 08-25-2009, 04:14 AM

Awwww man...

I was just going to bed and you have to throw this out there? Considering there isn't a "snus-stand" close, I guess I'm headed back to the store tonight -

...like I could go to sleep when the answer could have been right under our upper lip the whole time...

TropicalBob · 08-25-2009, 04:14 AM

I've used the penstyle (Janty Kissbox) e-cig for this experiment -- and the vapor is still very good late into the evening. I have a Janty Dura, but think that cart cavity might be too small. I knew the penstyle would be fine, as would a cigar or pipe cart.

The draw isn't affected any more than having a regular filter material present.

Swedish snus, which I often order online, goes all the way to 17mg per pouch (for regular size portions; I'm using mini size). A regular pouch would be a snug fit, but might make it into a penstyle. No way do I think a regular portion would fit a mini cig cart.

A Camel snus is said to be 8mg. The mini I've been using is 6mg.

The next time I try this, I'll add a drop of Bickford Kahlua flavor.

Final note: There's a tasteless snus from Oomph that used to be called Wine and Chef and I think is now called Wine and Dine, or something like that. Very powerful nicotine hit and would not add any of its own flavor to a vapor.

And, yeah, if worse comes to worst, I could use this should liquid be banned.

deewal · 08-25-2009, 04:51 AM

Thanks Bob. I'm using Janty Kissbox's as well. So i need mini pouches to be certain and regular may be a squeeze. (I'm sure you find out before i do) I've just looked on The Northerner and i'm not sure what the difference between a Portion and a Pouch is. There's so many different brands and strengths it's hard to know where to start.

Congratulations on another great idea.

yvilla · 08-25-2009, 04:57 AM

Kudos T Bob!

I never thought I'd try snus - but you've convinced me.

MaryKay · 08-25-2009, 06:37 AM

T Bob..A silly question I am sure..but would P.G. be ok? And I am sure you must have vaped that first mini snuss dry by now..how long did it last? I wonder if you could soak it a second time? I was thinking a drop of favor would be nice! Did the kahlua work?
What a concept! You have a nice mind..well at least a curious one..

Harry Crazington · 08-25-2009, 07:20 AM

Brilliant idea TBob.
I took the stuffing out of a cart, filled the cart with some Farmers Gold Additive Free Stuff Yer Own tobacco (just to measure how much it'd hold).
Dumped the contents into a Mr Coffee filter & twisted it into a little pouch then cut off excess with scissors.
Set the little pouch into a soup bowl & added a few drops of Everclear 150 proof and about 10 drops of PG onto the pouch & let it soak for about an hour.
Took the damp pouch & carefully stuffed it into the cart, and it works great. Even has a tobacco taste. I don't know if or how much nicotine it's delivering but it tastes good! This process even works with my herbal medication and it tastes very good too!

TropicalBob · 08-25-2009, 02:02 PM

Way to improvise, Harry!

FYI: The words portion and pouch are interchangeable. Same thing -- little tea bag-like packs of pasteurized tobacco. Some hardcore snusers think of snus as tins of loose tobacco. I don't use it that way. Just personal preference. And it wouldn't work well if used loose in a cart.

My own soaked mini is still producing lots of vapor going into its second day. I made one attempt to add some VG, but the thing wouldn't absorb more.

PG would be even better, in my mind, because of its anti-bacterial properties, but I don't have pure PG on hand. VG can be easily bought at a health food store, so that's what I use as a fluid to make vapor.

The only snus I have on hand at the moment are from Discreet, a new brand, and all are sweet. I'd rather have other choices and will order some today. Snus with pure tobacco flavor include the Lucky Strike mini, which I often use. And I want some tasteless Wine&Dine by Oomph, so I can try flavor experiments.

Great to see others experimenting. Do post your results and/or impressions. I'm still seeing lots of vapor from this Kissbox.

nikomoul · 08-25-2009, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kate51

Wonder what my husband will say when I tell him he HAS to quit using that dumb Silver Creek stuff and buy Gras from now on!! I probably wouldn't be able to print it out here.
That is brilliant, my gras friend!
And here I thought I was being smug because I just did a very nice tobacco absolute mix-up, very smooth, sweet and lovely bouquet, hint of mint. Damn. Gotta shop again.

Hi Kate,
What was your mixture exactly?

nikomoul · 08-25-2009, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TropicalBob

No waste, for sure. You were on the right track, ms. I read some posts about using snus as the source for nic liquid, but didn't try it. But this ... what a clean way to get nicotine vapor. My guess is the Camel snus could create a roll that might fit even better than the rectangular bag I'm vaping now.

I have no idea how long this will last, but I've been using it four hours or so now.

Tbob,
Can you recommend what soaking concoction i can use since vg and pg are not so great for me? Can i soak the Came SNUS in absolut alone? Or what if i put 20% pg (causes dry throat) and 80% absolut? What do ya think?
Thanks

PeteMcArthur · 08-25-2009, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by deewal

TBob. A couple of questions. (your probably gonna get hundreds soon)
1. What Atomiser/E-cig are you using ?
2. Do you know where i can get snus in the UK as it's Banned in Europe as far as i know. Jeez ! What a crazy ^&*%ing world.

Snus available at
Buy Snus, Order Swedish snus online world wide - BuySnus.com
Northerner. Buy Swedish Snus & Snuff Online. The Healthy Smokeless Tobacco Alternative

It's only the sale in the EU that is banned, buy from Sweden and it's legal, not cheap though.If you just want to try it, PM me and I can send a can to you.

Pete

08-25-2009, 04:14 AM	#21
Webby International Supplier CASAA Moderator Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: USA Posts: 578	Awwww man... I was just going to bed and you have to throw this out there? Considering there isn't a "snus-stand" close, I guess I'm headed back to the store tonight - ...like I could go to sleep when the answer could have been right under our upper lip the whole time... __________________ Michal "Webby" Douglas - Proud User\|Supplier\|Advocate Support CASAA\| The E-Cigarette Users & Suppliers Group The Consumer Advocates for Smoke-Free Alternatives Association

08-25-2009, 04:51 AM	#23
deewal ECF Veteran Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Scotland Posts: 523	Thanks Bob. I'm using Janty Kissbox's as well. So i need mini pouches to be certain and regular may be a squeeze. (I'm sure you find out before i do) I've just looked on The Northerner and i'm not sure what the difference between a Portion and a Pouch is. There's so many different brands and strengths it's hard to know where to start. Congratulations on another great idea. __________________ "Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both."

08-25-2009, 04:57 AM	#24
yvilla ECF Veteran Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 1,102	Kudos T Bob! I never thought I'd try snus - but you've convinced me. __________________ _____Non-Affiliated FanGirl_____

08-25-2009, 06:37 AM	#25
MaryKay Supporting Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: St. Cloud Florida Posts: 3,739	T Bob..A silly question I am sure..but would P.G. be ok? And I am sure you must have vaped that first mini snuss dry by now..how long did it last? I wonder if you could soak it a second time? I was thinking a drop of favor would be nice! Did the kahlua work? What a concept! You have a nice mind..well at least a curious one.. __________________ Mary, free:4-17-09 The Women's Room & Wrecked & Bonkers

08-25-2009, 07:20 AM	#26
Harry Crazington Re Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 231	Eureka !! Brilliant idea TBob. I took the stuffing out of a cart, filled the cart with some Farmers Gold Additive Free Stuff Yer Own tobacco (just to measure how much it'd hold). Dumped the contents into a Mr Coffee filter & twisted it into a little pouch then cut off excess with scissors. Set the little pouch into a soup bowl & added a few drops of Everclear 150 proof and about 10 drops of PG onto the pouch & let it soak for about an hour. Took the damp pouch & carefully stuffed it into the cart, and it works great. Even has a tobacco taste. I don't know if or how much nicotine it's delivering but it tastes good! This process even works with my herbal medication and it tastes very good too!

08-25-2009, 04:14 AM	#22
TropicalBob ECF Veteran Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Port Charlotte, FL USA Posts: 5,076	I've used the penstyle (Janty Kissbox) e-cig for this experiment -- and the vapor is still very good late into the evening. I have a Janty Dura, but think that cart cavity might be too small. I knew the penstyle would be fine, as would a cigar or pipe cart. The draw isn't affected any more than having a regular filter material present. Swedish snus, which I often order online, goes all the way to 17mg per pouch (for regular size portions; I'm using mini size). A regular pouch would be a snug fit, but might make it into a penstyle. No way do I think a regular portion would fit a mini cig cart. A Camel snus is said to be 8mg. The mini I've been using is 6mg. The next time I try this, I'll add a drop of Bickford Kahlua flavor. Final note: There's a tasteless snus from Oomph that used to be called Wine and Chef and I think is now called Wine and Dine, or something like that. Very powerful nicotine hit and would not add any of its own flavor to a vapor. And, yeah, if worse comes to worst, I could use this should liquid be banned.

08-25-2009, 02:02 PM	#27
TropicalBob ECF Veteran Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Port Charlotte, FL USA Posts: 5,076	Way to improvise, Harry! FYI: The words portion and pouch are interchangeable. Same thing -- little tea bag-like packs of pasteurized tobacco. Some hardcore snusers think of snus as tins of loose tobacco. I don't use it that way. Just personal preference. And it wouldn't work well if used loose in a cart. My own soaked mini is still producing lots of vapor going into its second day. I made one attempt to add some VG, but the thing wouldn't absorb more. PG would be even better, in my mind, because of its anti-bacterial properties, but I don't have pure PG on hand. VG can be easily bought at a health food store, so that's what I use as a fluid to make vapor. The only snus I have on hand at the moment are from Discreet, a new brand, and all are sweet. I'd rather have other choices and will order some today. Snus with pure tobacco flavor include the Lucky Strike mini, which I often use. And I want some tasteless Wine&Dine by Oomph, so I can try flavor experiments. Great to see others experimenting. Do post your results and/or impressions. I'm still seeing lots of vapor from this Kissbox.

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