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    Also, can I use the mini pouch for the 510 or is it too big?

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    Thanks Bob,for posting this. I am going to give this a try. I want something that taste like tobacco for the liquids kinda fail and if FDA does remove the liquid than this maybe a answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TropicalBob View Post
    I might need to add that when I say snus, I mean portion/pouch snus only. No loose stuff. The mini snus I use look like tiny tea bags. I can insert and remove them easily and they pose no threat to the atomizer.
    I am trying this with some Camel Frost Snus in the 801 adapter for my Stick. Unfortunately, I have an automatic Stick which is a piece of crap. Anyway, the bag is really tight, and when I stuff it, it seems to tear. Any advice on what to do? You said you "pinched" it, but I'm not clear on what you meant by that.
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    unreal.

    I just used a half a packet of Camel Frost soaked in VG in my 510, and it's vaping like a champ.

    Next, I'm going to try teabags to cover up the side that's open in the frost packet so I don't get any snus leaking into my atomizer.

    This is too frigging cool. Thanks again for the idea TB




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    For those of you asking about using PG instead of VG, the snus doesn't dissolve nearly as well in the PG. It will dissolve well in alcohol, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinningQuitter View Post
    unreal.

    I just used a half a packet of Camel Frost soaked in VG in my 510, and it's vaping like a champ.

    Next, I'm going to try teabags to cover up the side that's open in the frost packet so I don't get any snus leaking into my atomizer.

    This is too frigging cool. Thanks again for the idea TB




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    If you used a half one, how did you cover the open end or did you just leave it open? Did you split it before soaking it? This is really messy, so I think I must be doing something wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bearscreek View Post
    For those of you asking about using PG instead of VG, the snus doesn't dissolve nearly as well in the PG. It will dissolve well in alcohol, though.

    could you dissolve it in say half the VG, but double the snus....then, add double the PG after dissolving time?

    doh...I was thinking soaking it, then pulling it out, and vaping the liquid in your current cart....

    I guess you might could still dilute it, to take the VG levels down doing double or triple, in half or 1/3 the liquid.

    It's interesting no matter how you look at it. I got 50 snus, 16 oz. of PG, and 4 oz. of VG, and ready to do something.

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    I wouldn't suggest slitting them open, or using loose snus. That would endanger your atomizer. A mini pouch of snus fits well in a penstyle cart. I haven't tried one in my other e-cig carts, simply because I ran out of snus and am ordering more!

    Alcohol will just not make good vapor. No doubt a reason PG was chosen (in addition to cheap cost) is its ability to vaporize well and act as a carrier for nicotine. VG does the same, but is sweeter and actually makes even more vapor. It's also more expensive.

    If you have a problem with both PG and VG, I'd say this is not for you. I'm not aware of any other safe vapor carrier.

    When I went to put the soaked snus into the cart, it seemed too big. So I pinched down one end and stuck that in the cart, then "screwed" the thing into place. I poked it into final position with a pair of tweezers (but be careful not to tear that little bag).

    The original VG lasted about 8 hours of regular use. I put some more VG into the cart, but the flavor wasn't the same, so I'm moving that Kissbox back to regular carts I have on hand. This might be an "emergency" way to get vapor -- and I get the bulk of my daily nicotine from snus, dissolvables and puffing a pipe. I don't view this as my everyday way to vape.

    Now if some company put out little dry, cylindrical bags of pure snus tobacco .. ones that fit exactly into carts .. and we could add VG at our end ... well, we'd have a tobacco-based e-cig for sure.

    I bet the anti's would freak out more over that than they did over our liquid with nicotine in it!
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    Sherri: I'm looking forward to trying Camel this way. I don't have any on hand, but can get some locally tomorrow. The Camel pouch is a bit bigger than the General Mini Mint I tested with, so I can't tell you for certain that it will fit a penstyle.

    Look forward to testing other snus in other carts, however. If I can find one that will fit a 901, I'll use my Screwdriver to make copious vapor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TropicalBob View Post
    Sherri: I'm looking forward to trying Camel this way. I don't have any on hand, but can get some locally tomorrow. The Camel pouch is a bit bigger than the General Mini Mint I tested with, so I can't tell you for certain that it will fit a penstyle.

    Look forward to testing other snus in other carts, however. If I can find one that will fit a 901, I'll use my Screwdriver to make copious vapor.
    The Camel seems just a bit too large, so it tends to shred. I'm sure that I am doing something wrong, but I will keep trying. I can get some flavor and a little bit of vapor from it, and the flavor of the Frost is pretty good. The biggest problem is the only penstyle I have is the 801 for my Janty Stick, and my Stick sucks (lol). I suspect I need a new atomizer or maybe it is just because I have the automatic.
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