Shout-Out to isande, T Bob and...

[isande]

Originally Posted by Dredbull

GRR grumble grrr! Delivered today, no notice on the door someone signed for it... No one picked it up before 6 at the rental office....

have to wait till 9am tomorrow to get my snus on.....not happy and in a fiendish throw of a nic fit.

Ohh man, I'd be going crazy.

I had a weekend without snus a few weeks ago. Wound up buying a bunch of Camel, and stuffing in four to six portions at a time to get anywhere near the nic I got from a single Swedish 8mg...

Then I went and ordered 85 cans and swore never to let THAT happen again

Good luck riding it out. If all else fails, you can do what I did a few times in times of desperation and direct drip.. into your mouth :P

--K

[olderthandirt]

Got that 2nd order today and I'm finding that I do indeed have the tastebuds of an American. I'll not be needing to shave my shoulders any time soon T Bob

Liking the Camel products more and more, to bad their so expensive relative to the Swedish brands. Discreet Peach and the Strawberry are keepers without doubt. Of the General products the Original and Wintergreen are great, Sterk and Extra Sterk, not so much. Claq Qui clinches I don't do the sterk but the Gotesburg Rape #2 is perfect after dinner!

Saving grace is that it really isn't that expensive to try all the different flavors out their.

And my, there are so many left to try!

[isande]

Originally Posted by olderthandirt

Got that 2nd order today and I'm finding that I do indeed have the tastebuds of an American. I'll not be needing to shave my shoulders any time soon T Bob

I've got Oden's extra sterk in right now... maybe I'd better go get some more razor blades before my husband notices the shoulder hair I'm sprouting

Forgot to mention Fellini, btw. It's yet another snus marketed at women, so I'd probably find it was too low on nicotine and not nearly tobacco-y enough for my tastes, but you might like it!

--K

[olderthandirt]

Damn Dred, did you break a mirror or what! First UPS and then your SB

Tomorrow morning can't come to soon, eh?

isande, I was under the impression the Camel products were around 8 also. Course that was supposition from a user on another forum... Lord but ya must have looked like a chipmunk

And then she throws out Fellini... So many to try!

[isande]

Originally Posted by olderthandirt

isande, I was under the impression the Camel products were around 8 also. Course that was supposition from a user on another forum... Lord but ya must have looked like a chipmunk

They contain 8mg, yes. However, in my experience, the amount of nicotine actually absorbed from Camel and Discreet is much, much lower than would be expected.

It's a matter of pH, most likely. The higher the pH is, the more nicotine is "free" and readily absorbed. For example, most Swedish Match products have a pH of 8.5 which makes about 75% of the nicotine free. At a pH of 8.0, only about 50% is free. I believe Camel is much lower than this, around 6.5 from what I read.

The rest just sits there, or else goes down your throat and gives you a nice case of the hiccups/indigestion/etc.

Hope that makes sense. The good news is that pretty much all of the Swedish products are comparable... so one 8mg Swedish snus is going to deliver just as much nicotine as another. The only exception is that white portions are a little slower-acting than original (brown) portions. Total absorbed should be about the same.

--K

[olderthandirt]

Originally Posted by isande

...t's a matter of pH, most likely. The higher the pH is, the more nicotine is "free" and readily absorbed...

The rest just sits there, or else goes down your throat and gives you a nice case of the hiccups/indigestion/etc.

--K

I've read bits recently regarding the ph aspect, fascinating stuff. go for the sweet, lose the nic eh?

Just have to take a few 36mg hits and ponder that

[isande]

Originally Posted by olderthandirt

I've read bits recently regarding the ph aspect, fascinating stuff. go for the sweet, lose the nic eh?

Just have to take a few 36mg hits and ponder that

Luckily for you, there are a fair number of high-pH Swedish snus that are just as sweet as Discreet (not as sweet as Camel, though). Just look for the ones in tins that would embarrass Bubba to be seen with

--K

[frankie1]

OK idiot question that I am sure has been answered, but I have spent a couple of hours looking and can't find.....do ya swallow the snus..not the pouch...the..ahemmm spit?

[olderthandirt]

Originally Posted by frankie1

OK idiot question that I am sure has been answered, but I have spent a couple of hours looking and can't find.....do ya swallow the snus..not the pouch...the..ahemmm spit?

Yes you do swallow. Primarily it's just your saliva that your swallowing though. Flavored by the snus.

One of the more seasoned snusers could certainly give a more accurate response but from what I've gathered snus is designed to be dripless. My understanding is that means the moisture content is balanced so that the snus isn't dry, yet it doesn't add an undue additional amount of moisture to your mouth.

Mind frankie, I'm a total snubie. The few brands I've tried so far did just that. Added flavor to my slightly increased saliva production.

No spittoons required

[isande]

Originally Posted by frankie1

OK idiot question that I am sure has been answered, but I have spent a couple of hours looking and can't find.....do ya swallow the snus..not the pouch...the..ahemmm spit?

No need to spit. Some people prefer to at first, since the nicotine floating around in your saliva can give you hiccups or an irritated throat until you get used to it. But swallowing won't make you spew or anything

That said, the amount of drip you get depends on a few different things:

1. How long you've been snusing. At first, you'll produce more saliva.. my guess is the salt and flavorings make your brain think you're eating, so your mouth waters. This goes away after a few weeks of regular snusing.

2. The type of snus you're using. The original portions are wetter and drip more compared to white portions. It also varies between brands. V2 products (Offroad, Oden's, Thunder) are especially drippy while Swedish Match products (General, Ettan, Roda Lacket, etc.) usually don't make much drip at all.

3. Where you put it. If it's right up front and on top, just slightly to the left or right of center, you'll get a lot less drip than if you move it further back.

4. What you do with it once its in. Some people fiddle around with their portions a lot, others ignore it completely. The more you mess with it, the more drip you get. Also, if you tend to wet your portions before you put them in, there will be more drip.

In the end, it's really a matter of personal preference... some people like plenty of drip, others want dry, dry, dry. Some, like me, don't care too much about whether there's a lot of drip or a little, but find a moister portion to be a lot more comfortable and wind up with quite a bit of drip as a result.

Probably the most important thing to remember starting out is keep a nice, cold glass of water/soda/vodka/kool-aid/whatever handy. The easiest way to avoid (and get rid of) the sore throat is drink something!

--K