What's under your lip/in your nose right now?

[rothenbj]

TV, there is an issue with some that don't see a problem with what's going on, at least on any particular issue unless it starts to immediately impact them. It's always easy to support an issue that doesn't negatively impact you and perhaps you even feel it will make your life better. Smoking is a good example. Heck, I've started being annoyed by the smell myself at times and I did it for 43 years. However, I don't even make mention that it's bothering me, even in situations where I can't move away from it.

However, the vast majortiy don't have a clue what's happening which I probably would be part of had I not retired to smell the rotten tomatoes. Had I not got talked into trying an E Cig, I could have watched people using them and scoffed at the idea. That's how committed I was to quiting attempting to quit. I had turned TC off a long time ago after wasting money on "their" solutions. Realizing that there are a lot of very good products that can and will get you away from the smoke has woke me up to the fact that the number one preventable cause of disease in this country is our own country and the ?non-profit?"health" organizations that are out there to "help" us.

None of what is going on moving us close to a complete nanny state is going to make a major improvement, IMHO, but it will definitely do one thing, cost the consumer money and options. Other bi-products are eliminating major corporation competition. Any small business that starts seeing some level of success eventually will grow to a size where the government oversight will threaten their margins and destroying any advantage they may have had in resource allocation.

[hittman]

Good morning. I do agree with what you guys are saying. The govt. kinda reminds me of my boss. He will avoid important subject matter and then get all worked up over stupid little things. That's about as deep as my thought pattern will go this morning. I need to go find a portion to get my mind going.

30mg tobacco menthol
Coffee

[W Axl Rose]

There was a story circulating through email awhile back called "how to catch a wild pig". I think it very well describes what is going on with our government. Google it if you get time.

So this is where a couple of hundred years of democracy gets us. Interesting. If we had started out as a socialist country at that time, would we be working our way towards democracy at this time? Is it perhaps all cyclical?

Ya, I know, my spelling is not good.

lazy lazy saturday

blue xmas snus
water

[TWISTED VICTOR]

Yup, lazy Saturday. Even GM is probably avoiding the boss, too (avoid those mirrors).

roth, I agree with you so much I almost reposted it. I didn't 'cause it's only 3 posts back and I was afraid I might give someone the impression I wasn't aware it was only 3 posts back. I got into these nanny issues for the same reason most do. Helmet laws. It was something that directly affected me. Over the years, tho, it seems to have morphed into an all-out Big Brother (Big Bully) sucks agenda. Frankly, I'm not sure what I'd do if the government conformed to my ideals .


Cracking my knuckles at politicians with TAX FREE:

Odens ES Kanel portion
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[TWISTED VICTOR]

There was a story circulating through email awhile back called "how to catch a wild pig". I think it very well describes what is going on with our government. Google it if you get time.

So this is where a couple of hundred years of democracy gets us. Interesting. If we had started out as a socialist country at that time, would we be working our way towards democracy at this time? Is it perhaps all cyclical?

I found it, W. I've never read it before:

To Catch a Wild Pig - A Parable About Society That Offers Valuable Lessons for Leaders | Fast Company

[hittman]

Hello. I was sitting down trying some snuff Wiz sent me and thought I'd check in. The wife and kids went to a friends kids orchestra recital. I'm going to have to go get on the computer to read that article. The screen is too small on my phone. Living on the edge with

Some kind of schmalzal snuff
36mg Marlboro
Coffee

[TWISTED VICTOR]

Definitely check it out. Not only is the parable accurate to our current road from redemption, but the needed balance spoke of. It's very much worth the 1 1/2 minutes. I even bookmarked it .

[hittman]

Thanks for the link TV. I really enjoyed reading that. The snuff Wiz sent me is Poschl Perlesreuter Schmalzler and not schmalzal like I listed in my last post.

[hittman]

I stumbled on this thread by accident and got a real kick out of the video igetcha did. If you get bored, go take a look.

Worlds best E-Cig!?

[rothenbj]

Yup TV, helmet and seatbelt laws were right up there neck and neck with the start of the nanny state. Seat belts used to be only a small fine IF you were doing something wrong that they stopped you for and you weren't wearing them. Now I think most states are "Buckle Up, IT'S THE LAW".

I think both of the ideas make sense and should be stressed. However, neither should be fine-able. When I was a teenager, a guy came around the corner above our house and lost control of his car managing to flip it over right in front of our house. My father and I ran out and saw what had happened. Dad shouldered the window and lifted it high enough to get him out of the car. Had he been in a seat belt, who knows what would have happened. As it was we were able to get his head up (he was bleeding) and press some towels on the wound until the ambulance got there.

I pretty much wear my helmet MOST of the time, but I've had occasion to go without, depending on what I'm doing. I'm glad PA changed their laws and left it up to the discretion of the rider. I did have a situation a number of years ago that convinced me to normally wear it. It was one of those late winter beautiful days when you just wanted to get out and go for a ride. I decided at one point to stop and see my mom and was a road away making a right. I must have hit the gas a bit too early and a bit too hard because I went down hard. My head hit the pavement with a loud smack and the visor broke off as I heard the pop in my torso that could only be a cracked rib. Needless to say that influences me an awful lot and also looking for loose gravel and, in the case of the winter, cinders.