proceed with caution!!!

[grimmys cigs]

I just made a discovery that im afraid to post but in disclosure's sake i must tell. I have recieved my orders for smokey mountain and hooch herbal snuff which contain no nicotine and no tobacco. they come in all sorts of fruit flavors and are made from herbs so they dont carry the mouth cancer dangers of traditional spit tobacco. Now for the dangerous stuff, be careful!!! I took my can of cherry smokey mountain and I added 6 drops of my cherry e-liquid from e-cig to the can and mixed and shook it very well.I took a medium pinch and it turned out to be one of the best nicotine kicks in my life and the cherry liquid amped the cherry flavor in the snuff!!! Now ,this is extremely important when you place this mixture in your mouth: YOU MUST EXPECTORATE/SPIT!!!!!. I repeat: DO NOT SWALLOW!!!! You will get the nicotine hit from the lining inside your mouth. This could be the answer to dip tobacco users who want to reduce the risks with snuff/dip tobacco. If you are going to try this, expirement with the LEAST amount of e-liquid drops until you find the right amount for you. Enjoy and be safe!!! PS: I also tried this with the arctic ice smokey mountain herbal snuff and i added some drops of my menthol e-liquid and it rocks!!! :geek: :geek: :geek: :o

[TropicalBob]

I did some math one day and counted out drops to make 1ml in my syringe. Each ml of my liquid contains 24mg of nicotine. Each drop, I calculated, has 1.6mg of nicotine. I was calculating for nasal spray (bad news because it causes nasal infection, according to Dr. Loi, so don't try it), but the amounts can be used for what you tried. Your 6 drops added 9.6mg of nicotine to the non-nicotine dip. Not sure how much dip you used, but that certainly could give you a kick. Keep in mind that only 25 drops will kill you. You might try spraying it next time, to more evenly distribute the moisture. But, as you say, do be careful. Make sure someone knows what you're doing, so they could relay accurate information to emergency technicians if you overdose. Me? I'll stick to snus to complement my e-smoking.

[NerdyCinderella]

I was thinking somewhat along the same line as you TB.
However, I was thinking of creating a secure database of our SOs (significant others) so in case we didn’t hear from you in a while we could make some emergency contacts and call 911!.

[grimmys cigs]

thanks for the calculations tropicalbob. i thought i was crazy with the herbal dip, but nasal spray? you are a brave man tb. i love this method for the very quick, powerful kick! but be warned this product make a mess in your mouth you have to rinse and then brush to make sure its all out. herbal particles every which way!!!

[TropicalBob]

I didn't try to use this as nasal spray. Dr. Loi in Malaysia is way ahead of the curve on e-smoking, so I asked him. What had happened is that leaking bottles from E-Cig has obscured the markings of what was what. So I opened a bottle and began sniffing. Nothing. So I brought a drop to the top of the eyedropper -- and sniffed. And I bumped it into the side of my nose, way up inside. It was menthol! Whoeeeee. It burned. And opened up my sinuses. A short time later, I got a nic hit. So I wondered if this could be made into a nasal spray like those sold by Big Pharmaceutical. The short answer is "no" since we haven't the buffering compounds or whatever to make this not irritate our nasal passages. When I asked Dr. Loi, lo and behold, he had already tried it. His patients got infections in their noses about a week after steady use. I then dropped the idea of this liquid used that way or as liquid for an overnight patch (it can cause contact dermatitis).

You do be careful with your experiments.

[grimmys cigs]

hello everyone i thought i would give you all an update on my expirement with the herbal snuff and the e-drops. I added the drops before i got the per drop amounts of nicotine that tropical bob provided. Needless to say after working a double-shift at work with very little sleep,having two dips of my spiked herbal snuff, almost nonstop use of my njoy,using hydroxycut, (a weight loss pill, and finally asking one of my workers for a newport cigarette, I ENDED UP IN THE EMERGENCY ROOM!!!!! my blood pressure shot up to 185 over 100!!! I thought i was going to die. I had trouble breathing,I felt intense heat shooting through my entire body and horrendous dizzy spells. MY workers had to get me a chair while I waited for ems to arrive. I told my doctor about my " nicotine- replacement therapy" = ecigs and nicotine laced snuff. He was more concerned about the hydroxycut!!! believe it or not. He said my smoking alternatives are fine as long as I do not mix them with real cigarettes. That, he said will take my pressure over the top. Needless to say my hydroxycut hardcore is now in the garbage!! Also I made a new system for my self to pick a day and just stick with one product to curtail overdosing. For example one day just use snus, the next my njoy, the next my spiked herbal snuff and so on and so forth. Do not make my mistakes !!! good health to all on this forum!! :o :o :? :?

[dnakr]

Thank goodness your okay. You had a lot of different mixtures going on didn't you? Please, please, please be careful when trying these experiments. Remember, we don't know exactly what this is doing to us and how it will react with different medications that we are using.

[grimmys cigs]

thanks dnakr. I will surely take it easy from now on with these products. Ive grown a new respect for these things. They really can KILL if not used responsibly!!!!! I went to the doctor today for a follow up and they found my blood pressure at an excellent level. I know it had plenty to do with the massive doses of caffeine in the hydroxycut weight loss pills in addition to the nicotine. :? :? :?

[grimmys cigs]

tropical bob, i added the 7 drops to the entire unused can of dip, which is the size of a regular dip can like skoal, copenhagen, etc.

[TropicalBob]

Okay, but try to consume the minimum amount that satisfies your personal needs. We are all different. Like you, I use snus all day, smoke several pipes of the strongest latakia tobacco, go through Stonewall tobacco bits like they were candy, and e-smoke most of the day. I love coffee, too. I've only overdosed twice -- never so seriously to end up in an emergency room. Do be careful.

And I'm one of those increasingly convinced that nicotine is not the benign substance we make it out to be. Last year, I had carotid artery surgery and the doctors were adament that the nicotine from my years of smoking had hardened my arteries. Not smoke. Nicotine.

For one test while I was in a doctor's clinic, I popped a snus under a lip -- and the doctor recorded a 20-point jump in blood pressure. He almost put me on medication before testing another day without nicotine in my system. I was perfect then. Your best bet -- the best bet for all of us -- is to let e-smoking lead us to vaporizing flavor only. No nicotine. No smoke. Live long!