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    Got them from Heavensgifts today- they shipped on Monday, Wayne from HeavensGifts mentioned there might be a 2-3 day delay because of stricter controls on shipping because of the olympics, but they still got here pretty fast imo.

    First impressions after 20 minutes of smoking:

    HIT/THROAT/LUNGSTo be honest, I was expecting a bit bigger hit. The very first puff was great & I though Woowee- this is gonna be killer, then it mellowed out on just the second puff it seemed- a bit too mellow for my taste really. It does have a throat hit that I can only describe as 'different' than my other devices. It's not sharp, doesn't sting, but is a bit 'raspy', almost liek a slight tingle in the throat I guess would be hte way to describe it. The hit to lungs for me is just so-so. I can kinda feel soemthing, but ot be honest, I've had penstyle atomizers that delivered bigger lung whacks (Especially when hte fiber burns out and delivers scalding hot lava vapor to hte lungs lol). Now, when I straight inhale, I get a good lung feeling, but most people don't straight inhale Cigars, and it's made more for puffing hten inhaling.

    HIT/NICOTINE It's ok right now- not great, but not too bad- These Cigars from Heavensgifts only go as high as 16mg, but if I recall correctly, I've seen Ruyan disposables as high as 24mg- I could be wrong though. I think though, that the cigar will give enough nic to keep the nic-jitters at bay, at least for awhile, but don't expect it to deliver for the whole length of the cartridge life for sure.

    HIT/TASTEIs it 'cigar-like'? No, not really. While it 'resembles' a cigar, it does so very weakly in my opinion. I would describe it as an 'ultra-light cigar', a very mild cigar- perfect for htose looking for soemthing mild with a bit of a kick, but not too much of a kick. If that is what you are looking for, I honestly don't think you will be dissappointed, as the taste really is quite nice, although I personally was looking for a much more pronounced taste. If I had to scale the taste on how it impacts the taste buds on a scale of 1-5 I'd have to give it perhaps a 3 1/2 as compared to any smoking juices or cartridges that I've tried being about a 2 1/2. To me it's only slightly better than the blander less "tastebud impacting" E-cigarettes. I might give it a 3 3/4 just because it has more of a cigar flavor that is quite pleasing, but could use some beefing up in the impact arena in my opinion.

    (NOTE: This may change as the atomizer becomes more saturated with hte liquid- already I think I can sense a slight increase in taste- I also just got a fairly ok hit to hte throat- nothign earth shattering or anything, but a bit better hit- so stay tuned for updates my good people)

    QUICK UPDATE TO NOTE: The hit to throat and lungs does indeed seem a bit stronger now after abotu 50 puffs- will keep ya posted if it gets any better- The hit started out around a 2 3/4 for me, and is now I think a 3 on a 1-5 scale

    (NOTE #2) also note that my sense of taste isn't hte greatest, so it owuld take a pretty decent strong liquid for me to really note the taste of something- Years of smoking I guess have ruined my sense of taste, so take my taste review lightly, and don't let this portion of review influence your descision one way or the other. I'm just taste-impaired.

    DRAW Wow! This is what E-Smoking should be like- not too light, but light enough that you don't have to work hte device so hard your jaw aches at hte endof the day. Compared to hte LoongTotem, which has the lightest draw of any device I've tried, it is abotu the loong's equal- maybe even better as it gives, in my opinion, the perfect resistance- not going over the line to too easy. The draw is very easy, yet just enough resistance to give the impression of actually smoking a real cigar. There doesn't seem to be a cutoff point, and you can take a good long healthy inhale- unlike some of my other devices that cut you off just as you were really startign to get into a good inhale.

    VAPOR When puffed and not inhaled, it's about 1/3-1/2 of what my LoongTotem can produce when just puffed and blown out of hte mouth without inhaling. If you want a god comparison, it is about on par, perhaps an 1/8 less than, Cashme's video where he demonstrates refilling and uses his cigar in the video. (Note, I'm not talking about his inhale and exhale, but when he puffed the cigar- As well, you can see the vapor in Dusty's video for hte throwaway, and also Leaford's video, although Leaford's vid showed it refilled and was producing more vapor as a result)

    FORM FACTOR This category excells- holds just liek a cigar should, and hte wieght, while a bit heavy for a cigar, is quite nice. It is styled just liek a cigar should be, and you won't be gettign any funny glares from folks like we do when smoking a penstyle and peeps don't know what to think when your "Pen" billows out a cloud of vapor lol. Overall, quite pleased with hte form factor- now if only they can make those backwoods style- Clint EastWood style smaller cigars in throwaway versions, and beef up the nic and htroat hit by double, maybe even triple, I'll be quite a happy camper. The only real issue I have with hte form factor is that like Dusty said, the mouthpiece is hard plastic, which makes it awkward to keep cigar in mouth liek you can with a real cigars.

    EXHALE VAPOR Not much to report here except that I really like the fact that it totally absorbs in lungs and nothign gets exhaled for discreete smoking around company and in hte house. I could do the same with my other devices, but it would require much longer holding of breath waiting for vapor to diminish in lungs- too long to be comfortable infact- but with hte cigar, very little is exhaled even with a quick exhale, but, there is also the possibility of inhaling slowly and still being able to exhale vapor if you so choose- I quite liek the fact that you can decide what you want in this department.

    More to come
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    My mind is tired today, and I couldn't htink of any more categories to comment on, so if htere is soemthign that I left out and for which you would like my impressions on, please feel free to ask

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    Naz i felt like this with my ruyan "bling" for the first few days i wasn't that impressed throat hit wasnt as good as my 901 neither was vapour.
    but after a week things seem to change in a major good way.
    if you just stick to smoking just the cigar taste increases so does vapour and throat hit im talking about a different ruyan cigar here but im total hooked on it now it excels past my dse901 and that takes some beating but there is definitely a transition period when changing devices.
    stick it out and see what happens !
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    I'm going to Kit- I can already sense a better throat and lung hit, and taste for that matter. I'm definately goign to state that in htose 3 categories, they were a good 3 3/4, moving toward a 4 already. I'm sure htis will drop off a bit as the cigar nears the end of it's life, but for now, it's getting pretty good- we'll see how long it remains liek htis or if it improves of declines-

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nazareth View Post
    I'm going to Kit- I can already sense a better throat and lung hit, and taste for that matter. I'm definately goign to state that in htose 3 categories, they were a good 3 3/4, moving toward a 4 already. I'm sure htis will drop off a bit as the cigar nears the end of it's life, but for now, it's getting pretty good- we'll see how long it remains liek htis or if it improves of declines-
    Naz keep with it dude and remember as long as you dont tinker with other e-juices in the cigar the life span looks promising.
    bishybobs is still going strong hes over a month in and he uses his every day religiously.
    ive had mine nearly three weeks and i feel like ive struck gold in e-devices.
    it actual delivers where others fail.
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    The first cigar I'm not goign to alter with juices of flavors or anythign until it the cartridge craps out- I'll be testign how many puffs I actually get, how long hte vapor stays strong, the taste, the battery stays charged etc. Just so we have a reference to go by- the the second cigars I might alter a bit- we'll see.

    also- like you discovered, I've found I can inhale slowly, and get soem vapor on exhale if I inhale right- takes some practice, as it's kinda different than regular esmoking to inhale htis way, but it works good, get a decent amount of vapor out- not stupendous or anything- probably abotu as much as a half flat battery in a penstyle would produce. It's certainly satisfyign to see the vapor exhale as it's more liek a real cigg and calms the urge to smoek real cigg and see the smoke from them, and IO love hte fact that I can do either or- Exhale vapor, or exhale nothing if need be.

    I can see myself smoking the cigar for my morning smoke, which will be a huge victory for me as that a.m smoke I think for me is the hardest one to overcome- that and hte 'before-bed-time' cigg, then third woudl be the 'after-meal-time' ciggs, then 4'th most difficult woudl be the 'sitting-'round-and-jibber-jabbin-with-folks' cigg, then 5'th would be the 'break-time' cigg, the 6'th most difficult battle would be the .... and so on and so forth- I'm hoping hte cigar will help defeat these trigger points for me to smoke real cigg
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    Thanks for the review! Good stuff. I'm really going to have to get one of these when I get some spare $$. I kinda want to try to Loongtotem one too.

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    Hold off on the Loongtotem throwaways until you talk with Ned abotu htem more fully- He states that he can't smoke his because hte taste is terrible- he describes it as a 'grass-like' taste that is awful. Also, remember, that even htough loong's cigars are $28 dollars right now, they have a shipping fee of anywhere from $30-$50 which makes htem more expensive htan Heavensgifts Ruyans, and next month when Loong's sales are over, who knows how much loong will be charging for the cigars?

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    OK folks, just a quick update- I've smoked 400 puffs (I puff until light goes out an count that as one puff, as it gives a good dose of vapor), and htought I'd give a quick update of my impressions.

    First of all, obviously the Nic isn't very strong, as I was a 1 pack a day smoker, and having puffed 400 fro mthe cigar, that is equivilent to about 4 packs of cigarettes (concidering a regular cig takes me 10 puffs to finish), and I'm still standing. If I tried smokign 4 packs of real cigarettes, I'd be lyign in a morgue soemwhere lol, so obviously the nic in the cigar certainly isn't the = to real ciggs. I did have a couple of instances of dizzy and sweating, so it is deliverign some good nic- just not sure how much- I'd say probably more than 1 pack worth of nic at least, maybe two, as I'm sure if I tried smoking two packs of real ciggs, I'd probably experience the same instances of dizzy and sweating-

    I'm not sure what my nic tolorance is nowadays as I've smoked eciggs and now ecigar liek htey're going out of style, maybe my nic needs are up over2 packs now, and the cigar is packign more of a nic punch than I realize- but I don't beleive it's anywhere near 4 packs though.

    OK, i'm liking hte flavor more now, it seems a bit strogner now, and does hit hte htroat a bit better than it did at first for some reason- perhaps because hte atomizer got saturated fro mthe cartridge while smokign it I guess.

    The vapor at 400 is still about hte same as it was when I first started the cigar. I've discovered that if I want a real good throat and lung hit, that a 6 second straight inhale does hte trick quite nicely, and I'm thinking that this hit will help wean me off my morning real cigarette quite nicely, as I need a good strong smoke in the morning, and I think a few straight inhales from the cigar will accomplish this for me.

    I've also discovered that I get more flavor by taking two puffs (puffign until light goes out), and just rolling hte vapor around in mouth, lettign soem escape, and taking a whiff of hte vapor as it rises near hte nose- you get a pleasant smell and taste this way I've found.

    The taSte is much different than any ecig I've tasted, and it's reminscent of a real cigar, very mild, but nice- I still think it could be ramped up more though, but again, it's still a pleasant smokign expeirence and taste.

    I'm not sure if I'll smoke the cigar as heavy tomorrow, if not, I'll wait until I reach 1000 puffs in a couple days to give another update of my impressions, then again around 1500 or so, if it makes it that long, then I'll give my impressions of refilling when htat time comes. I'm smoking this cigar too fast, as the normal smoking would probably only do 100-150 a day, which means the battery would have to last for quite a number of days, and might affect the performance the more the days go by, so this review won't reflect normal smoking, but will give a good idea of the capabilities and taste and vapor etc at least. a sorta rough baseline to judge by.

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    I'm glad you are looking a the numbers game.. I'm horrible and have very little patience for counting puffs, hence why i don't do it.

    Thanks for the review, and i'm glad you are enjoying it. I'm sad that mine is on it's way out. I was really starting to love the flavor and everything else. the non-disposable just doesn't taste the same to me. Don't worry, after i go grab some hats tomorrow i think i have like 6-10 videos to do and one will be the update on my ruyans. i might even refill the disposable on camera and see what it does.

    Quick note as well. I think the smell of the vapor really impressed me. very reminiscent of a light,sweet cigar, but not as strong as a real one. i do enjoy it though.
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