510 vs smokeing everywhere

[danielwd]

Why is it that everyone is still getting ripped off on the SmokingEverywhere after doing research here? Stop buying the SE. Get a 510 from cignot, or a 901 or 801 or something, but people are still paying like $150 for 1 batt, 2 atties and 5 carts or something like that? Stop buying crap for crazy amounts of money. I googled the RN 4081, the SE re-branded kiosk brand, and if you really want it, it is like 20 or 30 bucks online, instead of like $150. They do have to pay rent, employees, taxes, and alot more rent for the kiosks, maybe they are justified in the price for their situation, but man, stop paying that, and then discussing its faults after supposedly "researching" it beforehand. Just read this awesome site more. Everything that exists about PVs in the world, as far as info goes, is here. Maybe the 4081 is ok, I don't have one, but don't pay $150 for it, then say you researched it, and then complain about it and complain about a known horrid company that screws everyone. !
Well, sorry, I'm still a noob here, but still, don't buy the SE crap.

Edit: SE -Screws Everyone!
haha!
PS - The point - they tend to screw everyone and have a shoddy product and charge 5x more for it. Read this site more. And don't buy a 4081 rebranded as an SE and waste your money. And read this site more, too (if I didn't say that).

I agree that SE screw everyone, however, I really, really like their mint cartridges, and with a little modification, the RN4081 smokes pretty well. I get just as much vapor out of it, with a little help (taping 1 of the holes), than I do my JOYE 510.

By the way, does anyone know if that SE mint juice is sold anywhere as e-juice or can recommend a similar e-juice?

[bhima]

Buying juice by the cart is retardedly expensive. For new e-cig users you should go with either the 510 or 901 because the parts are EVERYWHERE on the internet AND if you really get into it and want to get a big battery mod like the screwdriver etc, you already have the carts, liquid and atomizers that are compatible with the big battery mods. Good places to buy starter kits are rockymountainvapor and kingpincigs because they both offer free shipping and they are located in the US.

When you plan to make your purchase, buy some e-liquid with your starter kit. You will thank me later