E-cig evolution to eGo

[Lightgeoduck]

you know the funny (ironic) thing is I heard about the mouth piece popping out into the mouth TB and I am like what the heck... don't be so abusive on your darn carts... I again said (out loud) what the heck when you mentioned it in your video....

Well guess what... karma kicked in and a moment later guess what happened... all I was left to say is.... what the...

still isn't common though... knock knock (wood)

[TropicalBob]

The end coming off wasn't common with me either, but even a rare occurance is a problem, right? It's a design problem, as far as I'm concerned, not a user-abuse problem.

Looking back on it, I think variables other than inhalation strength triggered the failure. Fluctuating temperature causes contraction and expansion. These can be environmental fluctuations and/or internal ones caused by rapid heating and cooling from the atomizer.

If I inhale at length, the atomizer heats, the metal parts in proximity heat, the plastic heats at a different rate, a gap is created and the vacuum of inhalation allows the tiny end piece to pull loose.

As someone mentioned, I also tend to grip the mouthpiece hard with my teeth, sometimes dragging it over the teeth as I pull it away after inhaling.

None of that matters, however, if failure is possible. Reasons don't excuse results. This needs fixing.

[googled]

The only cartridges I've found without a removable end cap are very thin 901 whistle tips, not the d-shaped ones but much thinner than them, they're moulded one piece design. I'm not sure if they are available for 510 atomizers. Personally I remove the end caps as a matter of course with a paper clip including the piece of plastic inside but then I only really drip - I'm intend getting metal t-tip at some point in the future.
Good videos Bob, you're great to listen to, you remind me of the narrators or presenters of old 50's / 60's American sci-fi series .

[TropicalBob]

Thanks for the nice words, Googled.

I thought of leaving the end pieces out of the cartridge, but the problem is that the open cart end then becomes a kind of "cookie cutter" for your lip or mouth should someone bump you. That open metal cylinder is quite sharp and could easily take out a chunk of flesh.

With the end properly in place, the cart is merely a battering ram to break teeth if you're bumped while holding it in or near your teeth.

(As a smoker, how many times did you smash your cigarette into something or someone and end up bending the cig? Happened to me many times over the years. In fact, there were a series of ads for 100mm cigs based on this "mistake".)

Concerns like this also keep me from clamping my teeth down on any e-cig while driving. A quick accident, an air bag deployment .. and surgeons will work a long time to get the non-bendable e-cig removed from the back of the throat. I always aim it off to one side while in a car, whether driver or passenger. Never raise it straight on toward your mouth in that situation.

(Small aside: As a reporter/photographer, I once covered a fatal accident where a cigar-smoking man had smashed his face into the windshield. He died, but his cigar was perfectly embedded THROUGH the glass windshield, with half out of the car and half in the car. It was NOT shredded. Amazing.)

To me, unquestionably the best mouthpieces are those made of a flexible rubber-like material. I use them on my penstyles. Wonderfully comfortable.

[paso]

Wear do you get them bob?

[TropicalBob]

You know, I actually forgot how I got them. I've had them at least half a year. I think they were samples sent to me. I have three still. If you have a favored supplier, ask that person. Or maybe someone here knows where rubberized mouthpieces can be bought.

[St_Francisco]

Thanks for the nice words, Googled.

I thought of leaving the end pieces out of the cartridge, but the problem is that the open cart end then becomes a kind of "cookie cutter" for your lip or mouth should someone bump you. That open metal cylinder is quite sharp and could easily take out a chunk of flesh.

With the end properly in place, the cart is merely a battering ram to break teeth if you're bumped while holding it in or near your teeth.

(As a smoker, how many times did you smash your cigarette into something or someone and end up bending the cig? Happened to me many times over the years. In fact, there were a series of ads for 100mm cigs based on this "mistake".)

Concerns like this also keep me from clamping my teeth down on any e-cig while driving. A quick accident, an air bag deployment .. and surgeons will work a long time to get the non-bendable e-cig removed from the back of the throat. I always aim it off to one side while in a car, whether driver or passenger. Never raise it straight on toward your mouth in that situation.

(Small aside: As a reporter/photographer, I once covered a fatal accident where a cigar-smoking man had smashed his face into the windshield. He died, but his cigar was perfectly embedded THROUGH the glass windshield, with half out of the car and half in the car. It was NOT shredded. Amazing.)

To me, unquestionably the best mouthpieces are those made of a flexible rubber-like material. I use them on my penstyles. Wonderfully comfortable.

You should use the suggestion that one guy had, and run a bic over the edges to seal that cap in place. It's worth a shot at least.

[Kelemvor]

come on, the tips worthless now that i threw my last Bic out of the window.

*just kidding*

[TropicalBob]

I'll try sealing with flame from my pipe lighter. Fortunately, I have very few of those 510 carts, and have hundreds of 901 carts with a single-piece whistle tip that won't come off.

I remembered that I had one of those ads for long cigarettes:

[Nikko Daniels]

Tropical Bob, thank you for the outstanding videos. I just watched both of them and enjoyed every minute of them.

I actually started my vaping with one of those "Health" ecigs with the plug-in pack. Fortunately my 510 showed up the very next day and I was able to pitch my cigarettes away that day, hopefully for good.... over 8 months so far...

I'm expecting my Tornado (same as the Janty eGo but was AVAILABLE to be purchased) today and am very excited to try it out.

I also experienced the endcaps popping off a 510 cart, a few times, and the same thing with endcaps on a couple of those soft, whistle-tip DSE-801 pen-style carts as well. I noticed this seems to happen because I'm holding the ecig in my teeth and sometimes apply a bit too much pressure, bowing the sides of the cart inward, distorting the end where the endcap resides.

Not too worried about it, will just have to deal with it until an improvement to the design is implemented.