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    I had no problems switching from smoke to vapor. Even going from vapor to snus was a walk in the park. Then I stopped snusing, and throughout the hell that ensued I - ironically - yearned for snus, even though I had used that form of delivery for a few months only. Probably because it was the last method my body remembered.

    So my experience absolutely denies any habit-things, hand to mouth or whatever. My addiction is nicotine only.

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    There's no doubt in my mind that addiction to cigarettes is WAY more than addiction to nicotine. The nic addiction is there, and it's hard to break, but I think it'll be easier to cut out nicotine now that I'm no longer smoking analogues. I've quit regular cigarettes twice (went a year without one on both occasions) and it was pretty rough at first. I had a similar experience switching from cigarettes to vapor, but the nicotine content in the juice eased the transition. It's obvious to me that vapor versus smoke is a big step down the addiction ladder. If the vaporizer was outlawed tomorrow there's no way in hell I'd go back to analogues. I'd just bite the bullet and go through the nic withdrawal. Without having to get off all the other crap in analogues I think it would be far easier than quitting regular smoking.
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    Fact: Nicotine in its natural form is safe and non toxic
    Fact – We consume it everyday

    It’s present in many common foods such as potatoes, tomatoes chillies and tea

    Fact – Nicotine is good for you.

    It improves memory, concentration and mood, by influencing the neuro transmitters in the brain and is the subject of intense medical research, to treat diseases such as
    Parkinson’s and Altzeimer’s Disease, depression and Attention disorders.

    Concentrated nicotine will cause harmful effects or even death.
    I think as in all things including vaping, moderation is the key.

    If you want to get off of nicotine, you might consider removing all nic laced foods for awhile too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Computer Extreme View Post
    Fact – Nicotine is good for you.

    Though there's ample evidence that the main risk behind traditional smoking is in the combustion byproducts, fine particulate, tar and so forth, I think there's still some dispute about the "benefits" of using nicotine. Saying that it's good for you isn't really something I'd peg to the word "fact" personally. I'm willing to entertain the idea, but I'd need to see more research first. At the moment what I've read leads me to believe that it's not horrible for you, but not necessarily good either.
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    Every year I plant 20 to 30 tomato plants.
    I get a yield of approx 300 to 500lbs of ripe tomatoes of which I eat raw or can.
    I also get a yield of approx 150lbs of green tomatoes of which I pickle.

    I have asked several of my doctor clients about the nic content of tomatoes.
    The consensus has been about 1-2lbs of vine ripened tomatoes = 1 standard cigarette.

    (my tomatoes range 1/2 to 3/4lb each)

    Tomatoes you get at the store are green and then gassed to make them red/orange.

    I hate store bought tomatoes, they have no taste at all. I love ripe tomato cut and served moments off the vine at their peak.

    It may be the nicotine in the tomatoes that I or anyone who eats them craves.

    I'm wondering if the FDA is going to regulate or ban the nicotine in my tomato garden as its been reported all over the net that nicotine is as addictive as ......

    So my Idea is for Frankie to switch from vaping now, to eating ripe tomatoes.
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    will tomato juice gunk up my atty'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Computer Extreme View Post
    Every year I plant 20 to 30 tomato plants.
    I get a yield of approx 300 to 500lbs of ripe tomatoes of which I eat raw or can.
    I also get a yield of approx 150lbs of green tomatoes of which I pickle.

    I have asked several of my doctor clients about the nic content of tomatoes.
    The consensus has been about 1-2lbs of vine ripened tomatoes = 1 standard cigarette.

    (my tomatoes range 1/2 to 3/4lb each)

    Tomatoes you get at the store are green and then gassed to make them red/orange.

    I hate store bought tomatoes, they have no taste at all. I love ripe tomato cut and served moments off the vine at their peak.

    It may be the nicotine in the tomatoes that I or anyone who eats them craves.

    I'm wondering if the FDA is going to regulate or ban the nicotine in my tomato garden as its been reported all over the net that nicotine is as addictive as ......

    So my Idea is for Frankie to switch from vaping now, to eating ripe tomatoes.
    Watch out! You've got fruit-flavored nicotine!

    Tomatoes are still a fruit, right?

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    i cant wait to try one, comes in tomorrow Gigiddy gigiddy Goo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frankie View Post
    I had no problems switching from smoke to vapor. Even going from vapor to snus was a walk in the park. Then I stopped snusing, and throughout the hell that ensued I - ironically - yearned for snus, even though I had used that form of delivery for a few months only. Probably because it was the last method my body remembered.

    So my experience absolutely denies any habit-things, hand to mouth or whatever. My addiction is nicotine only.
    I've had a very similar experience except that I was never able to quit smoking when I vaped. Just not enough nicotine. A few days after I started snusing I smoked my last cigarette. And this after nearly 40 years of smoking.

    I'm going to guess that different individuals are going to have different reactions, but for me it's nicotine I wanted. The whole hand to mouth oral fixation thing was way overblown. Smoking was just the way I got my nicotine. When I switched to snus it seemed to take a few weeks for my brain to figure out that my nicotine now came from snus. After that I rarely thought about smoking or vaping. I do still occasionally get a little panic type attack where I'll want a cigarette. It passes quickly enough.
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