E-Cigs are really looked down upon by recent quitters.

[PTJD]

Yep Chantix is not good. Patches hardly ever work.

[justsomeguy]

As someone who spends a lot of time on message boards, I can't say I'm a big fan of going over to another site and trying to convince them their approach may be wrong. Looking over that site it seems clear they're aware of e-cigs, but overall their goals seem different that what I see from the majority here.

They seem intent on quitting everything having to do with smoking and nicotine.
We, for the most part, seem interested in quitting the unhealthy aspects of smoking while continuing our nicotine addiction.

Personally I wouldn't appreciate their members coming over here and posting repeatedly about how we shouldn't be using e-cigs to quit.... and if I was in the midst of a cold turkey quit after deciding that was the right way to go for me... I surely wouldn't want someone telling me it was okay to puff on some nicotine liquid.

I don't know - just my 2 cents.

[sanfordf]

As someone else that has been trolling the boards at this excellent site, I think that there will always be people that want the method that they use (to quit smoking or whatever) to be reinforced and validated. So,..anything contrary is in conflict with them.

[PTJD]

As someone who spends a lot of time on message boards, I can't say I'm a big fan of going over to another site and trying to convince them their approach may be wrong. Looking over that site it seems clear they're aware of e-cigs, but overall their goals seem different that what I see from the majority here.

They seem intent on quitting everything having to do with smoking and nicotine.
We, for the most part, seem interested in quitting the unhealthy aspects of smoking while continuing our nicotine addiction.

Personally I wouldn't appreciate their members coming over here and posting repeatedly about how we shouldn't be using e-cigs to quit.... and if I was in the midst of a cold turkey quit after deciding that was the right way to go for me... I surely wouldn't want someone telling me it was okay to puff on some nicotine liquid.

I don't know - just my 2 cents.

Problem is legit users of E-cigs are constantly called spammers over there. I understand they did have their share of spammers but we have had more than a few respected posters from here accused of selling there.
Now if any of them wants to come over here to tout "chantix" or "nicorette" we may argue the benefits but would not accuse them of being spammers from Pfizer. Oh, never read how anyone critisized their way of quitting on their forum.

[Xenu]

I've read this thread, and I'd be interested to know the results of any study comparing other quit methods with PV's...although I don't think that the rates of PV's will be any better than other forms of NRT. I think they'll show similar numbers to NRT for going back to analogs, and similar numbers of people who aren't smoking but addicted to the NRT.

For our quit smoking home, we don't see the choice to change the nicotine delivery method to be any different from still smoking. Yes, its healthier than an analog (or at least probably is), but it doesn't fit into our beliefs of freedom from nicotine.

Thats the fundamental difference: Many people here have no desire to be free from nicotine, myself included. We're only interested in a delivery system much less likely to cause health problems. We mostly do not value abstinence from nicotine for its own sake.

[lilbootz]

yea i remember when i went to the nurse because i was having the coughs and the sniffles. she said i had a must've had a bad immune system...then we got to the smoking question and i said i quit two weeks ago. she congratulated me but then frowned down upon the help i got from e-cigs. she said that I really needed to quit the nicotine dependency in my brain. BUT I DONT MIND

[CaptainChet]

Quickly looking over the thread titles in the main forum, I'm quite amused. Plenty of relapse threads, and the one the really gets me is the "Relapse is not acceptable" one.

Just reading that title, I can tell much more about these people and their education as to addictions!

[AlexTM]

We have learned to live with our addiction. They would rather not. Now, I have my own opinion as to what has more chances of success, but I don't think that us looking down on them is all that appropriate, either.
In fact, a mutually respectful "agree to disagree" is usually much better than any "us" vs. "them".

[Wildraw]

I wish them the best of luck. If they believe they can quit that way, they should try, without interference.
I know I can't. I have done it twice. For 2 years once, 4 months another. If I get off of these, I will always keep one, charged and ready. I have fallen off that wagon before. I can always fall onto my e-cig.

i wqanna keep one in a drawer just in case once i wean off the ecigs
i'm planning to wean down the nic to 6 mg then wean off entirely in 6 mos or so,
but if miss up and vape. it's still way better than a relapse back to tobacco

[~Wendy]

Problem is legit users of E-cigs are constantly called spammers over there.

It's ashame that's what they're thinking. I think that people are so excited that ecigs are working for them and they want to share the news/solution with others and hopefully help them. It's very disappointing when you receive a negative response to something you believe is so wonderful.