New to rebuilding? Some thoughts on startup supplies on amazon

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kartoffelfaust

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The goal with this list is to provide someone looking into getting into rebuilding a list of supplies and where to get them. When new to rebuilding, It was daunting to figure out where to buy what, what was necessary, what was just opinion, which vendors were trust worthy, etc etc. Still difficult to sort out what's best, but stuff in this list has worked for me.

I wasn’t about to spend $10 for a few sheets of “organic” cotton. Boiling cotton balls was a PITA, so that was a non-starter. Finding tiny tools was also a pain.

So I stuck to amazon for supplies. Not for batteries, mods, atomizers, mind you, but just general supplies that were reasonably priced.

To those who know more than I do, feel free to add to this list. For me, it was all trial and error, mostly error.

Ohm Meter.
The one I bought ($15) is out of stock and not sold anymore. Looks identical to the one by eleaf. Bummer. It works great. There are others, non-prime eligible. Buy one, build on it, always use it before test firing on regulated or unregulated devices. I had a short in an Orchid tank once on an IPV3, test fired w/o using ohm meter. Because the short brought it from 1.1 to .15 ohm, it still fired, still dangerous. Always test. If getting into rebuilding, buy one of these first, before anything else. You can also get them from a variety of vendors on line, but since I’m focusing on Amazon, here’s a search link.

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=sr_nr_p...keywords=510+ohm+meter&ie=UTF8&qid=1422831238

Cotton - for wicking.
I tear the outside compressed edges off of this before using. Seems to wick better that way. Otherwise, no boiling or anything. To each his own.
Amazon.com: Cotton Labo ORGANIC Cotton Puff Size M (200pc): Health & Personal Care

Pliers
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000NPR2LW/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Wire Cutters
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000IBOOWQ/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Precision Screwdrivers. Useful for their intended purpose, as well as wrapping coils. I use the 2.4mm flathead most of the time for RDA, Lemo. 2mm for other tanks with smaller decks.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00009OYGV/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Resistance wire
I always buy 100 foot rolls. Lots of room for trial and error. I personally own 24, 26, 28, 30 awg. I use 26 the most, with 28 as #2. I only use 30 for twisted or clapton style coils, but its really too thick for clapton coils. I use 24 occasionally in my Tugboat, usually just as single coil. It gets warm. I also used the 24awg to fix a toilet chain flusher thingy in our guest bathroom; it is pretty sturdy wire, but easy enough to bend.

26 gauge kanthal.
http://www.amazon.com/Genuine-Light...ref=lh_ni_t?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A2T7YDD56AIX5S

28 gauge kanthal
Amazon.com: Genuine Lightning Vapes Kanthal 28 AWG Gauge A1 Wire 100' Roll .32mm , 5.27 Ohms/ft Resistance: Everything Else

Battery Charger.
I’m looking for a better one. The 2 bay one I had crapped out when plugged into a DC outlet in my truck that was no good, possibly shorted. Open to suggestions. It gets all my efest, mxjo, re-wrapped LG batteries up to 4.1-4.2 volts pretty reliably.
Amazon.com : NITECORE i4 (New 2014 version) Intellicharge universal smart battery Charger For Li-ion / IMR / Ni-MH/ Ni-Cd 26650 22650 18650 18490 18350 17670 17500 17335 16340 RCR123 14500 10440 AA AAA AAAA C types with Ac and 12V DC (Car) power cord

Tweezers
They come in handy. I stole some from the wife. She can’t pluck her eyebrows anymore, but I can pull cotton through coils, or compress micro coils to ensure they heat properly.

Multimeter
Optional if you have a 510 ohm meter. I have this one in the garage that I picked up quite a few years ago. Comes in handy. I should also mention that I use multimeter to test "married pairs" of batteries in the IPV3. After 50-75% discharge, I'll test them on occasion to make sure they are draining at the same rate. If not, the pair goes to e-waste and I'll buy a new pair. I'd recommend doing that for anything that runs series batteries.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000BF39XY/ref=od_aui_detailpages01?ie=UTF8&psc=1


 
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Tweezers
They come in handy. I stole some from the wife. She can’t pluck her eyebrows anymore, but I can pull cotton through coils, or compress micro coils to ensure they heat properly.

Tried that... was quickly re-educated and told to "buy your own".

Great list thanks for taking the time to put it together.
 

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IMO 28ga is a great wire for starting out, 32 is good for rebuilding protank heads (people still doing this??).
28 is good for beginners because its easier to work with than 32ga, but isn't as low resistance as 26ga.

Ceramic tweezers is a good call

I use these to wrap coils on
Dremel 628-01 7 Piece Drill Bit Set - Power Rotary Tool Accessories - Amazon.com

These are supposed to be the most accurate and best ohm readers
USA Made Clear Transparent Ohm Meter *BLUE LED*

These are the wire cutters I use - work great, comfortable grip
Hakko CHP-170 Micro Soft Wire Cutter, 1.5mm Stand-off, Flush Cut, 2.5mm Hardened Carbon Steel Construction, 21-Degree Angled Jaw, 8mm Jaw Length, 16 Gauge Maximum Cutting Capacity: Side Cutting Pliers: Amazon.com: Power & Hand Tools
Nail clippers work too on a budget

I have the i4, but the D2 or D4 may also be a good recommendation - many also have great luck with with the eFest LUC chargers (hehe - luck with LUC)
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KW2ZDHQ?psc=1

I uses these for screwdrivers, but having ones that you can coil on may be more helpful
HDX 23-piece Precision Screwdriver Set (Screwdrivers) - - Amazon.com

A Volt meter is also a good idea to check battery voltage if your mod doesnt do it for you:
DROK® White LED 0.36" 3.0~30V Small Voltmeter Digital 18650 Cell-phone Lithium Battery Tester 5/12V DC Voltage Meter - - Amazon.com
You can get some shrink wrap and just touch the leads to the battery like SuperX or put it in a case like me (requires soldering)
http://www.amazon.com/Sinometer-BT5...id=1423114522&sr=1-18&keywords=battery+tester
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-combined-parts-voltage-tester-show-tell.html


I would also recommend linking to baditudes blogs on battery safety.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/baditude/6740-18-baditudes-blogs.html
 
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IMO 28ga is a great wire for starting out, 32 is good for rebuilding protank heads (people still doing this??).
28 is good for beginners because its easier to work with than 32ga, but isn't as low resistance as 26ga.

Ceramic tweezers is a good call

I use these to wrap coils on
Dremel 628-01 7 Piece Drill Bit Set - Power Rotary Tool Accessories - Amazon.com

These are supposed to be the most accurate and best ohm readers
USA Made Clear Transparent Ohm Meter *BLUE LED*

These are the wire cutters I use - work great, comfortable grip
Hakko CHP-170 Micro Soft Wire Cutter, 1.5mm Stand-off, Flush Cut, 2.5mm Hardened Carbon Steel Construction, 21-Degree Angled Jaw, 8mm Jaw Length, 16 Gauge Maximum Cutting Capacity: Side Cutting Pliers: Amazon.com: Power & Hand Tools
Nail clippers work too on a budget

I have the i4, but the D2 or D4 may also be a good recommendation - many also have great luck with with the eFest LUC chargers (hehe - luck with LUC)
Amazon.com: Nitecore D2 Digicharger 2015 New Version with LCD Display Universal Smart Charger For Rechargeable Batteries IMR/Li-ion/LiFePO4/Ni-MH/Ni-Cd 26650 22650 18650 18500 18490 18350 17670 17500 16340 RCR123 CR123A 14500 10440 AAAA C AA AAA Batt

I uses these for screwdrivers, but having ones that you can coil on may be more helpful
HDX 23-piece Precision Screwdriver Set (Screwdrivers) - - Amazon.com

A Volt meter is also a good idea to check battery voltage if your mod doesnt do it for you:
DROK® White LED 0.36" 3.0~30V Small Voltmeter Digital 18650 Cell-phone Lithium Battery Tester 5/12V DC Voltage Meter - - Amazon.com
You can get some shrink wrap and just touch the leads to the battery like SuperX or put it in a case like me (requires soldering)
Sinometer BT558 Self-powered Battery Tester - - Amazon.com
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-combined-parts-voltage-tester-show-tell.html


I would also recommend linking to baditudes blogs on battery safety.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/blogs/baditude/6740-18-baditudes-blogs.html

I use the same ohm meter except I got the red LED - it works great & I am very happy with it. I have a few Fluke DMMs as well but the USA is very convenient & you can build on it too...

Same with the wire cutters - I have the same one & it works great as well...

I was falling asleep last night & the ceramic tip tweezers were all I could think of at the time :facepalm:
 

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My Tweezer set came from Harbor Freight. There's multiple styles, some with locking features, some blunt, some with sharp ends. All of them are ground to come together completely when you close them. It's a great buy for $4.99.

http://www.harborfreight.com/6-pc-fine-point-tweezer-set-93598.html

Sally's cotton coils are great for wicking. There are two types. If it says Cellucotton, it's rayon and that's the best. If it just says cotton, it's a good grade of coarse combed cotton that wicks like crazy.

This is the cotton coil.
Salon Care Professional Reinforced Salon Coil at Sally Beauty Supply.

This is the Cellucotton coil. It's the same as the one from Amazon, but a little cheaper.
Sites-SA-Site
 

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I'd like to add the following for wicking as I find it works a bit better than Japanese cotton (Ko Gen Do):

http://www.amazon.com/Graham-Profes...F8&qid=1423493082&sr=1-1&keywords=cellucotton

Thanks for this one - I've been considering trying rayon due to the hype & hoopla around it. Having a heck of a time getting the Lemo to wick 100% VG with cotton without the occasional dry hit. The reviews seem undecided if it's cotton or rayon, though. Interesting that "frequently bought together" include wire cutters and kanthal.

Perhaps the other link posted here from sally's beauty supply is more reliable?
 

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Thanks for this one - I've been considering trying rayon due to the hype & hoopla around it. Having a heck of a time getting the Lemo to wick 100% VG with cotton without the occasional dry hit. The reviews seem undecided if it's cotton or rayon, though. Interesting that "frequently bought together" include wire cutters and kanthal.

Perhaps the other link posted here from sally's beauty supply is more reliable?

It's the same product as Sally's if you are talking about the blue and white box. It's cellucotton and that's the rayon. Rayon is made from wood pulp. The fibers wick better and most say that the vape is cleaner than cotton of any kind.

I've been vaping Koh Gen Do cotton and it's a good product. I actually like the red box salon coil from Sally's better, though. The red box is a cotton product used in beauty salons to wrap around the head and absorb drips when they do hair coloring. A box about 6" high and 4" on a side only costs $3.49 as compared to the cellucotton that's about $14 for what appears to be the same amount of product. It's rolled in a long 40' coil that's about 3/4" thick. You just snip off a section and then cut it with scissors to the width you need for a wick.
 
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