Possible health warning

[ApOsTle51]

Read about a chap over on the PS sub-forum who had to make a visit to his GP due to possible Nic overdose.

Seemed to have similar symptoms to a nic overdose but :

Was in the hospital for two days with what I thought was nicotine poisoning. Ive only been vaping the 6mg or 12mg juice but started to get extremely dizzy and sick.
The doctor told me it was not nicotine poisoning but sysemic absorbtion from lithium batteries.
The battery was cracked on the inside and allowed the lithium from the battery to vape with the e-liquid.

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Very Interesting.
Several people previously have mentioned your symptoms on this forum , and most advisory replies put it down as Nic overdose.

Sysemic absorbtion of lithium from a damaged battery is another Risk which people shouldn't rule out with these things.

just be aware guys , If this is a factual account it's another thing to watch out for.

ApO.

 

[chief druid]

i drop my bteeries all the time ... ooo worried now ... do get a funny taste some time ... tastes like blood in my mouth ... hmmm ... any one know what vaping lithium tastes like????

 

[frogbmth]

I'm sure he means systemic absorbtion of lithium.

It is not uncommon for doctors to see the poisoning, children swallow bateries with alarming regularity. It's a very real risk for anybody using an unsealed battery, juice goes in, battery corrodes etc etc. Good post Apostle

Andy

 

[ApOsTle51]

Thing is I'm not sure how solid Lithium from a battery would break down to form a gaseous vapour that can be inhaled , or even if it does.

I know Li-poly batteries if punctured will combust instantly in contact with oxygen, but i have no idea of the make up of Lithium ion cells and if they do produce a non-combustable gas if damaged.

Even still the more we know the better.

SOME INFO ON LITHIUM


edit : seems it is possible.

excerpt from : HERE lithium-ion battery data sheet

Potential Health Effects: ACUTE (short term): see Section 8

for exposure controls In the event that this battery has been ruptured, the electrolyte solution contained within the battery would be corrosive and can cause burns.

Inhalation: Inhalation of materials from a sealed battery is not an expected route of exposure. Vapors or mists from a ruptured battery may cause respiratory irritation

FIRST AID MEASURES

Inhalation : If contents of an opened battery are inhaled, remove source of contamination or move victim to fresh air. Obtain medical advice

 

[frogbmth]

Lithium Ion batteries contain a liquid electrolyte, comprised of solvent and lithium salts.

 

[chief druid]

well manual batteries are sealed so theres no chance of that happening .... right????

 

[surbitonPete]

Well pointed out Apostle..........we need our experts discussing how possible that might be.

 

[ApOsTle51]

yeah , Kind of an obvious Risk now. One that seems to have been overlooked for a long time. I've never seen it mentioned before, Got me a little worried tbh.

If big gov. does come down on these devices it's certainly going to be a big factor in the safety of them.

 

[frogbmth]

They are used in electronic nebulizers on the market, not sure if the battery compartment in them is completely sealed though?

 

[surbitonPete]

yeah , Kind of an obvious Risk now. One that seems to have been overlooked for a long time. I've never seen it mentioned before, Got me a little worried tbh.

If big gov. does come down on these devices it's certainly going to be a big factor in the safety of them.

Yes that's the trouble they will be looking hard for a really good excuse to ban them on safety ..........although I think it would be a fairly simple thing for the manufacturers to make a design change that ensure's the batteries are sealed off from any chance of inhaling any fumes from them......it certainly sounds like something that should be done sooner rather than later, if there is the potential of inhaling fumes from battery chemicals.

 

[deewal]

Yes that's the trouble they will be looking hard for a really good excuse to ban them on safety ..........although I think it would be a fairly simple thing for the manufacturers to make a design change that ensure's the batteries are sealed off from any chance of inhaling any fumes from them......it certainly sounds like something that should be done sooner rather than later, if there is the potential of inhaling fumes from battery chemicals.

Best delete this thread then as anyone can use it against us, true or untrue.
I only use USB passthrough's now (even though they are very unreliable and expensive) but it is something that should urgently addressed. How can our suppliers do anything about it ? They don't manufacture them. They probably don't have a "Use By" date on the boxes.

 

[Angela]

Just to add to this one: at the time, I questioned the OP of that thread that I thought it was strange that he didn't report any 'burning' sensations as a symptom, which is the usual main symptom of this kind of poisoning. Apart from nearly taking my head off in the thread, he then went and posted a visitor message on my profile which states:

"Brush your teeth you dirty Brit"

Pretty much decided there and then that he was not playing with a full deck.

 

[ApOsTle51]

Angela , report that message to a mod , Preferably SJ.

 

[Angela]

Yes - considered it when he did it, but decided to leave it there for a while to show what an idiot this person was.

May report it now though.

 

[SuziQ]

What IS this forum coming to???

 

[deewal]

What IS this forum coming to???

Total anarchy SuziQ.

 

[SuziQ]

hmmm, shouldn't say too much about what I think of this sh**.

 

[deewal]

You just did SuziQ.